Saturday, November 18, 2006

Ominous Petition Rejected

I don't really keep up with news from Germany but it was hard to miss this item. A group of German academics has requested that Germany cease it's "special relationship" with Israel, i.e. its pro-Israel policy, so that the government can feel free to support the grievances of the Palestinians, who presumably have suffered greatly as a result of the Holocaust. Here are the opening paragraphs from Ynet News:

BERLIN – Twenty five German academics published a petition Wednesday urging their government to loosen its embrace of Israel and start embracing Palestinians in an unprecedented act in the history of the relationship between Germany and Israel.

The academics in question are highly influential professors at the country’s leading universities which were mainly funded by the German government. Many of them are known for their anti-Israel stances.

The academics called on the German government to stop giving “special treatment” to Israel following the Holocaust and warned that the sympathetic attitude could lead to unrest amidst the German people.

The petition was recently published in the German based journal Frankfurter Rundschau owned by the Dumont Schauberg publishing house. The company recently purchased 25 percent of Haaretz’s stocks.

The 25 petition signers called on a change in the character of the relationship between Israel and Germany, which would lead the two countries to have a “friendship free from past burdens,” one which would leave room for expressing criticism of Israel.

According to the academics, the Holocaust binds Germany to not only stand by Israel, but to also stand by the Palestinians. They said this was important since the ramifications of the Holocaust lead to much suffering for the Palestinians over the past 60 years.

Read the rest of the article here.

An article in The Jerusalem Post announces that the German government completely rejects the petition:

The German Embassy rejected on Thursday a call made by 25 German academics for the country to abandon its "special relationship" with Israel in favor of a stance recognizing Palestinian suffering as an outcome of the Holocaust...

A German Embassy spokesman in Tel Aviv, however, dismissed the petition. "It in no way reflects the position of the German government. The position of the German government regarding the special relationship with Israel will not change."

He described that relationship as stemming from German behavior in the Holocaust.

"We accept fully that because of the Shoah, the German people and [government] have a special responsibility to the State of Israel," he said, emphasizing that all of Germany's top leaders have stressed their support for this policy in recent years.

Click Link below for the whole article.

The issue of the so-called "right to criticize Israel" or, to put it differently, the taboo on criticizing Israel, is a topic that arouses angry debates at the French websites. I think the problem stems from the fact that there are two ways of criticizing Israel: one, as a friend and the other as a pro-Palestinian. Within Israel itself the debate rages.

Friends and supporters of Israel were shocked when Ehud Olmert stopped the war in Lebanon long before the job of disabling Hezbollah was completed. Their criticism was aimed at prodding Israel to wake up, rid herself of Socialists, and recapture the patriotic spirit of yore. Enemies of Israel were also critical, but for opposite reasons. The German academics are enemies of Israel; their so-called criticism masks a desire to collaborate with terrorist organizations such as Hezbollah. America is moving in this direction...ominously.



At November 19, 2006 3:13 AM, Blogger dag said...

We've had civil war in America before, and we've waged major wars against European nations. We've done those things and we might well do both again. It's perhaps the way life has to be, regardless of the clear wrong of it. I steel myself at the thought of it, and I wonder if I'll live so long as to see it. I suspect so.

Life is very weird. Who would think we in America would have to fight among ourselves to come to a new union of decency and freedom against the neo-feudalists? It should be obvious that we shouldn't even have this discussion at all ever; but that's not how it seems to be coming along. There is a growing and collective insanity that we might only overcome and subdue by force and war. And when we finish with our own we'll have to attack the crazies in Europe. And then we'll march on the whole olf the wasted world, crushing the innocent as well as the guilty because we've let life go so bad by doing not just nothing but that we have encouraged our enemies to be insane, paid them and prompted them to call down our wrath upon them. Maybe that's the nature of Humanity. It's weird and unpleasant and worse. So, on we go, watching this play unfold till it's our turn to take the stage to act our parts. There's no script written but that already written in the nature of man. I'm not even angry. I'm just surprised. I thought we were better than that.

At November 19, 2006 8:58 PM, Blogger tiberge said...

@ dag

I believe the Myth of Sisyphus is the best metaphor for life itself. It never ends. The idea that all those brave soldiers who died for America and Europe died in vain makes a mockery of life. For that reason we, somebody, must rise up against evil and call it by its name.

I never thought I'd see a new rise in anti-Jewish hatred, nor did I think Israel would be so close to failure as a nation, nor did I foresee France groveling before Islamic thugs, nor did I think America would adopt open-borders, nor nor nor...

We just have to see it through until time runs out for each of us. It's ironic that Tom Brokaw's Greatest Generation was followed by the Most Destructive Generation ever.

At November 20, 2006 2:57 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Finally Germany is removing itself from the shackles. Simply taking a more objective approach to the Israeli-Palestinian problem does not equate to anti-Semitism. It equates to having a free mind - which is one of the most European of values.

At November 21, 2006 3:33 PM, Blogger truepeers said...

Here is what happens to free minds in Germany

At November 21, 2006 5:41 PM, Blogger tiberge said...

@ truepeers

I had heard about this case. I will post a link to the article ASAP. In France they call him the German Robert Redeker.

At November 25, 2006 9:58 AM, Anonymous big bill said...

Hooray! Leftism and white race guilt triumphs!

And lets extend the German version of white race guilt to its obvious conclusions, shall we? Because of 350 years of slavery in America and millions of dead black folks, American white folks have a "special relationship" with blacks and owe them eternal reparations, too! Oh, and if you speak out against THAT idea, why, you are a "racist".

The German race is not going to be in eternal debt to the Jewish race any more than white gentile America is going to be in eternal debt to blacks.

At November 27, 2006 8:47 AM, Blogger Eliyahu m'Tsiyon said...

anonymous & big bill forget that Arabs --that is most of the Arab nationalist movement-- supported the Nazis. So there is no room for the Arabs, including the so-called "palestinians" whom no one had heard of, least of all the Arabs, in 1948. Indeed, the leadership of the palestinian Arab leadership, such as Haj Amin el-Husseini, the British-appointed mufti of Jerusalem, explicitly encouraged the Holocaust. In particular, the mufti asked the Nazi govt and the govts of the junior Axis members in Eastern Europe [Hungary, Rumania, Bulgaria] to prevent Jewish children from leaving the Nazi-fascist domain and to send these children to Poland instead where these Jewish children would be under "active supervision" in the Mufti's words. Hence, these German professors are either ignorant of the Arab [particularly palestinian Arab] role in the Holocaust, or they are consciously lying and distorting history. Their argument is fraudulent in any case.

At November 27, 2006 8:53 AM, Blogger Eliyahu m'Tsiyon said...

I meant to write in my second sentence above that
"there is no room for the Arabs ..." to claim that they were victims of the Holcaust, since they too were perpetrators of the Holocaust.

Moreover, nobody, least of all the Arabs, beleived in a "palestinian people" in 1948, at the time of Israel's war of independence. Indeed, Arab spokesmen at the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry in 1946 testified that there was no such place as "palestine"!!! What the West called "palestine," they testified, was merely southern Syria.

At November 29, 2006 6:03 PM, Blogger tiberge said...

@ eliyahu m'tsiyon

I just saw your comments today and I thank you for intervening. I fear your comments have fallen on deaf ears. As time goes on the situation worsens, and people are ill-equipped to cope with it. Inveterate Jew-haters will never change, there is no reasoning with them, since their feelings are so irrational to begin with. Others mistakenly believe that if we (for example, Germans and Americans) were "free" to criticize Israel it would improve our chances for peace in The Middle East.

But we ARE free to criticize Israel. The German petition was not about criticizing Israel but about support for the Palestinians (whom you rightly point out are a fictitious people). People should be free to criticize Israel when Israel does not act in her own best interests, when Israel becomes too liberal, too socialistic in her desire to be some kind of "open society". This IS reprehensible. But Israel is usually criticized by bleeding-hearts who pity the poor Palestinians (some bleeding-hearts are actually Israelis) when Israel defends herself.

I think many nationalistic Americans have turned against both Jews and Muslims as if they were the same. They feel America should have nothing to do with either of them because they drain us of treasure and cost our men their lives. In such cases it's hard to determine if these people are really hard-core anti-Semites in disguise.

Big Bill is not entirely wrong when he advocates freedom from white guilt (or German guilt). But I'm not asking anyone to feel guilty. I'm asking them to recognize their allies and their enemies and to realize what the stakes are and how foolish it would be to abandon Israel or to support the "Palestinians". It is true that the liberal attempts to force people to feel guilty have made the situation worse. And I am against monetary compensation for descendants of those who have suffered in the past. Germany has in fact paid dearly for her crimes. BUT - the rise of Islam changes everything. The rise of Islam as a religion of poor suffering people has prompted the liberals of the media and of academe to rush to their side, AND it has provoked a resurgence of anti-Semitism that would have otherwise remained dormant.

People have to be reeducated, as you indicate in your comments on el-Husseini. I knew nothing of him until I bought my computer 4 years ago and began learning so many things that the media never tell us. These pro-Palestinian Germans would not have had the fuel for their fire if we had managed early on to contain Islam. They would have had to swallow their venom and turn to other things. The amazing push of Islam on a dying, decadent, morally weakened West has re-activated the worst side of human nature.


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