Tuesday, June 19, 2007

Turkey In Europe 2

At Galliawatch I have posted at least twice on the ambiguous position of Nicolas Sarkozy vis-à-vis Turkey. Another article at the very patriotic Europae Gentes website has similar thoughts:

Europe, Europe. Although he agreed to the reopening of discussions on three areas of Turkey's membership (and in so doing contradicted himself relative to his campaign declarations) Nicolas Sarkozy has just announced publicly to his European partners that he might oppose the opening of discussions on new areas of debate. For him, the priority must be the adoption by the EU of a simplified treaty after the failure of the referendums on the constitution. The issue of expansion, ergo of the advancing or not of the process of Turkey's membership, should be left to the European Council that meets in December 2007.

Is Sarkozy stalling for time both to keep his campaign promise that is still fresh in people's minds (i.e. his opposition to Turkey's entry) and to persuade the Commission to accept his mini-treaty?

Currently the president is adopting a most ambiguous stand on Turkey: at once hostile to speeding up the membership process through the opening of new debates and, at the same time, unwilling to completely close the door. It is logical to assume that Nicolas Sarkozy is maneuvering strategically in an environment where he has, today, few supportive partners.

And yet, will he continue to defend the idea that Turkey is not part of Europe if that becomes a stumbling block in the relaunching of plans to construct Europe? We can't be sure. For the moment it is clear that the Turkish question is still causing disarray among European leaders who are still unwilling to open the essential debate on their own identity.

The bottom line: will Sarkozy trade his position on Turkey for an acceptance of his version of the European constitution? Even if he does it will only mean new debates and discussions, not an admission ticket for Turkey. That will no doubt come later, in some as yet undetermined quid pro quo.

One thing no one ever mentions in the debate on national identity is the identity of Turkey itself. Browsing through the splendid gallery of thousands of photographs at D. Osseman's website, it is bewildering that anyone would want to neutralize or denature such a fascinating land, by forcing it to become European, in the modern sense of the word: decadent, morally diluted, and largely atheistic.

I realize that Europe in its traditional sense, not Turkey, has everything to lose by such a merger. But I still wonder why there hasn't been more of an outcry from Turks concerned about their own culture. Of course Turks with ulterior motives are not going to voice a protest - they see Europe as their next territorial extension. But are there others who see dangers for Turkey?

Philippe de Villiers is the only one I know of who said that to force Turkey to be European is to disrespect Turkey and its uniqueness.

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At June 20, 2007 5:50 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard today that Sarkozy has put together 'the most sexually and racially diverse administration in the history of France'. Could this really have been the result of choosing the best person for each post? Perhaps there is a clue here as to how he will behave vis-a-vis Turkey's admission to the EU.

At June 20, 2007 8:10 AM, Anonymous Hephaestos said...

Turkey is only really unqique for being one of the most murderous and backward peoples throughout history.

At June 20, 2007 10:13 AM, Blogger tiberge said...

@ anonymous

It is not the result of choosing the best person for the job, but the person who is most in tune with political correctness: so far three Muslim women, many socialists, etc...

One black woman - a deputy from Martinique I believe - complained that she was being begged to join his cabinet, even though she said no many times. She had a hard time convincing them.

I will be reporting on this later today and tomorrow. There is much commentary at the websites about the way the socialists sabotaged the election on Sunday and the weakness of the "Right".

I have no confidence in Sarkozy on the issue of Turkey.

At June 20, 2007 10:21 AM, Blogger tiberge said...

@ hepahaestos

Your comment answers my question. Turkey has EVERYTHING to gain by entering Europe who has EVERYTHING to lose including its decadence. There is no national sentiment in Turkey that would prefer to remain separate.

At June 20, 2007 12:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You don't have to go back in history to come up with good reasons why Turkey does not belong in the EU. Just walk the streets in almost any European city of Europe and observe the ones who are already here. This is what is so remarkable about the campaign to get Turkey into the EU -- the evidence showing why it is not a good idea is everywhere to see.

At June 20, 2007 2:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about 'Just walk the streets in almost any major city in Europe and observe the ones who are already here.'

At June 20, 2007 8:34 PM, Blogger tiberge said...

@ anonymous

And the fact that the evidence is everywhere to be seen only spurs on the immigrationists to complete the job. They are not people who want the sane solution, they WANT the disintegration of the old nations.


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