Wednesday, April 16, 2008

Masonic Influence in the EU

A communiqué from the French Federation of Le Droit Humain, posted at Le Salon Beige, reveals the influence of Freemasonry in the European Union. Le Droit Humain is one of several Masonic lodges in France. (Note: I am leaving "le Droit Humain" in French, since that seems to be customary. The words actually translate as "human right" in the singular or "human law", but neither one sounds plausible in English.)

The French Federation of Le Droit Humain represented by its president, Michel Payen, met on April 8, 2008 with the president of the European Commission, José-Manuel Barroso, in a delegation composed of the Grand Feminine Lodge of France, the Grand Orient of Portugal and the Grand Orient of France (...)

This meeting constitutes a major event regarding the place of Freemasonry in the construction of Europe; this place was underscored not only by the interest and attentiveness that President Barroso showed to the delegation and the time he accorded them, but also by the commitments he made to the values espoused by liberal and adogmatic Freemasonry, its positions and its opinions on subjects of concern. It was the first time that Freemasonry, as such, was able to express itself to such a high level European institution.

The delegation received assurances from President Barroso of his attachment to the spirit of "laïcité" and to the principle of separation of religion from the State. The delegation stressed the importance of the Enlightenment in the history of Europe, a dimension to be taken into account at least equally with its religious roots, and certainly more closely tied to the roots of antiquity.

Finally, a principle of communication between the liberal and adogmatic Masonic Orders and the services of the European Commission, to be used whenever needed, was decided upon. Thus the French Federation of Le Droit Humain will propose, in the near future, a recommendation concerning the principle of emancipation that ought to form the basis of all European education systems, in direct relation to a recognition of the contribution of the Enlightenment to the common culture of the peoples that compose Europe, and in accordance with the principles of the Charter of Fundamental Rights.

Note: I assume "emancipation" refers to the breaking of bonds with religion, although it could refer to freedom for women. Le Droit Humain was founded primarily to allow women into Freemasonry.

Consequently, the Freemasons of the French Federation of Le Droit Humain are encouraged to debate fully the questions concerning Europe and to make known their opinions in order that an original, strong and well-informed voice characterizes our contribution to the discussions.

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At April 16, 2008 12:11 PM, Blogger Masonic Traveler said...

I don't see this so much as a result of the influence that Freemasonry has, rather the interest it holds in keeping that separation of church and state. Freemasonry has long been a champion of that position, and as a group has opened the door to talking about it to ensure its continuance as an "emancipated" state.

Just my thoughts. If they really had the "power" or control, would they have met so publicly or had to ask for the audience?

At April 16, 2008 1:13 PM, Blogger Dr.D said...

The day will come, quite soon really, when the Freemasons will long for their old enemy the Church because they will be under the heel of their new enemy, izlam. Unfortunately, it will be too late, and they will only then realize that all the energy they spent attacking the Church was actually chipping away at their own freedom. They will have much time to repent their errors in their endless dhimmi state.

At April 16, 2008 2:01 PM, Blogger Masonic Traveler said...

Is islam really an enemy, or is it just in the folds of it as radical aspects seek to dictate the way to allah?

At April 16, 2008 2:29 PM, Blogger Dr.D said...

Izlam is very clear that its agenda is global domination. This means bringing all people under its rules, and that is contrary to the ideas of people who have their own thoughts on how they want to live. There can be no question whatsoever that izlam is the enemy. It is an implacable enemy, and one with which there can never be any sort of accommodation because any such will only be temporary until izlam decides to demand more.

There is no doubt whatsoever that izlam is THE enemy!

At April 16, 2008 5:05 PM, Blogger tiberge said...

Just a brief comment...

Islam is certainly the enemy of the West, but we must remember how Islam came to be here in the first place. I am not speaking of a few Arab neighborhoods or a few mosques. We now have anywhere from 5 - 10 million Muslims in France, depending on who is counted as Muslim. There are illegals, mixed marriages and so forth. There are almost 2000 mosques. So the total figure is hard to establish. But they are there because they were allowed in by Western governments eager to prove that multi-culturalism is a superior way of life and will soon supplant the old nation-states.

None of this would have happened without insane immigration policies pushed forward by governments bent on undermining their own peoples.

As for the EU, besides separation of Church and State there will probably be other ramifications in the fields of bio-ethics, education and social issues. I know that all Masons are not the same. The Grand Orient of France is extremely left-wing, atheistic and favors the general socialist policies. The Droit Humain sounds a tad more conventional, but I'm not certain.

At April 16, 2008 5:32 PM, Blogger Dr.D said...

Tiberge, all I can get from your comment is that the West has made mistakes in allowing Muzlims to invade under various guises. That is most certainly true. We have traitors in our midst without a doubt. We have more than a few who would sell their mother for a dollar today and have absolutely no thought for tomorrow.

We seem to have forgotten, and I think all of Europe has even abolished, the long established penalty for traitors: death. This was for a very long time universal and well understood, and it served as a very useful deterrent. Today, nobody is deterred, because they know that the worst that can happen is a slap on the wrist and more likely a pat on the back. Quick application of the death penalty for traitors would do much to solve our problems.

At April 17, 2008 12:52 PM, Blogger Cockadoodledoo said...

Masonic Traveler wrote "I don't see this so much as a result of the influence that Freemasonry has, rather the interest it holds in keeping that separation of church and state. Freemasonry has long been a champion of that position, and as a group has opened the door to talking about it to ensure its continuance as an "emancipated" state".

You see, my dear three-point(-less) brother, if you want to separate church from state because of allegedly undue "insane" influence, you should also consider separating socialism from state, free-masonry from state, liberal-leftism from state, gay freaks from state, etc. Does that make sense to your nonsense?

At April 17, 2008 3:09 PM, Blogger Masonic Traveler said...

Nice, I see you like your point taken on the barb of an insult.

Yes, it does make sense. But, when the argument is on separating out religion, then that is what you want to separate.

I don't think you can ever separate every -ism out of the mix, but try to balance it. I'd rather not be told which way to pray by pope, president, or poll.

At April 25, 2008 3:45 AM, Blogger Freedom Warrior said...

if you cross out izlam and put in Talmudic Jews then the comments will be correct.This is called jewish reverse think. Accuse your opposition of doing what you are doing.

At April 26, 2008 1:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We must always remember that Freemasonry is a manifestation of the antichrist - working hand and hand as agents of the evil one. Let us pray for their conversion.

At April 26, 2008 11:47 PM, Blogger Masonic Traveler said...

wow, how's that?

At April 27, 2008 6:29 AM, Blogger chellow said...

"...the principle of separation of religion from the State."
- but isn't freemasonry the religion that encompasses all relgions? Contemporary & the ancient mystery religions.
Albert Pike - Morals and Dogma:
"Every Masonic Lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion.
This is the true religion revealed to the ancient patriarchs; which Masonry has taught for many centuries, and which it will continue to teach as long as time endures."

At April 29, 2008 8:54 AM, Blogger Alexander Gieg said...

I won't say I like Sharia. Nor that I dislike it. In fact, once I understood how it works (by reading Plato, mind you) I've become pretty neutral towards it.

I also won't say that I like Freemasonry. Masons were a nice enough group until some centuries ago, when they still were a Catholic initiatory association for the merchant cast, with rites more appropriate to them than those targeting warriors (the Knight Templars filled this niche) and sages (Hesychasm and the like work better here). Unfortunately, Masonry went downhill when these same merchants got infected by the far easier, even though decadent, ideals of Enlightenment, and nowadays is hardly more than a political group with make believe rites.

However, as far as Islam being seen as "the enemy", I have to say that it's somewhat an inversion of how history developed. They were a kind of enemy until the Middle Age, sure enough, but afterwards thing inverted completely. Fred Reed shows how much in this article, with a simple statistic:

"There follows a list of Christian countries I can think of that have been conquered by Moslems since the Industrial Revolution:" (empty)

"On the other hand, to the best of my admittedly weak historical understanding, the following Islamic countries have been conquered by Christians: Egypt, Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, Jordan, Chad, Pakistan, Bangla Desh, Libya, Indonesia, Yemen, Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Kyrgyz, Kazakhstan, Somalia, Sudan, and Uzbekistan, to name a few. On various occasions Christians have tried to conquer Afghanistan, but with no better luck than they deserved."

As you see, if they answer by immigration, with some random sporadic act of violence, that's hardly a strong reaction when compared to the way "we" acted toward them.

Put into this perspective, things become much more complicated, don't they?


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