Saturday, May 16, 2009

Pro-Cologne - More Views


Due to continued delays in posting I was not able to post this link from La Yijad en Eurabia to photos of last weekend's demonstration in Cologne, Germany. Possibly you have all seen them and have moved on to other topics of interest. But these photos focus on the counter-demonstration of the Left. Particularly striking is the one (above) showing the support of homosexuals for the mosque project. We seem to be moving in the direction of total acceptance of Islam by some of those most likely to be persecuted under Islamic rule: homosexuals, women, Catholic and Jewish religious leaders (not all of them, of course, but major figures). If these "progressive" groups and individuals are digging their own grave, it doesn't seem to bother them one whit.

For the gays and feminists, ANYTHING is better than a return to the Christian moral order, even a blood cult. In fact, IMHO, they are attracted to the blood cult, fascinated by the power it wields, and by the way it instills fear in ordinary folk like you and me.

Not every conservative was enthusiastic about pro-Köln. The Editrix, writing at her blog (thanks to the reader who sent the link), sheds some light on what she perceives as the true motives of the anti-Islamic European Right. At first I had some trouble following her argument, but the gist of it is that many right-wing European parties are only using the Islamization of Europe as a convenient way to gain supporters, and when push comes to shove, it will be revealed that these parties are much more Nazi in their philosophy than American conservative observers are willing (or knowledgeable enough) to admit.

I know very little about the right-wing parties of Europe, but the party of Geert Wilders (and Wilders himself) seems completely viable, as does Vlaams Belang. The Front National is something else. It still has good people in its ranks, but I no longer regard it as anti-Islamic, though caution dictates that I refrain from calling it pro-Islamic. Yet, that is close to what I believe. Its leader has certainly called for restricted immigration, but has taken no stand on Islam itself, as a force out to conquer Europe and America. He has seen to it that the Nazi streak in the Front National is real and overt for all to see, and not merely an empty accusation from the liberal media. His obviously pre-meditated provocations are designed to attract a cult following, to slowly rid the FN of some of its best adherents and ultimately to discredit the traditionalist cause. In this, The Editrix is right - we must beware of European right-wing parties.

The fact remains that they are still the only ones saying ANYTHING about Islamization. The danger (which is being borne out) is that these parties will ultimately be lumped together in the public's mind as being all alike (yet no two people could be more different than Wilders and Le Pen) and all equally demonizeable. It is essential that people be able to differentiate a man like Wilders from a man like Le Pen. Some of the rhetoric is similar, that is true, but the spirit, the intent, the sincerity of purpose are radically different.

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9 Comments:

At May 17, 2009 2:44 PM, Blogger AMDG said...

Thanks for the link, Tiberge.

The atmosphere of those counterdemos is very revealing indeed.

 
At May 17, 2009 3:09 PM, Anonymous dauphin_b612 said...

While I support the demonstration against the mosque, the Editrix is right I think. As one who was seduced by Le Pen's book « Les Français d'abord » as a teen, a book which seemed only reasonable, I now see what the real agenda is. The type of people the FN is attracting only hurts the cause of immigration, national identity and sovereignty.

This last incident of FN supporters beating up a black guy at a rest stop while saying "Heil, Hitler", only makes the patriotic Right look like a bunch of idiotic thugs (unless this is a false incident created by some agents of the state--possible, I guess). In any case, nothing could do more harm.

It is time for de-Nazification if any progress is to be made. This means swift condemnation of any such violent acts or harassment, Holocaust negation, or winks at skinheads. These must be taken away from the Left as wedges to keep mainstream voters away from politicians who support national identity. We need a movement of "identity without hatred", a coalition that transcends political divisions of Left and Right. For the good of France, the spiritual descendants of Vichy should be shunned and pushed into their own small groupuscules, while a broad national movement is built.

 
At May 18, 2009 1:17 AM, Anonymous Last of Kin said...

For the prevailing cultural hegemony of today, Christianity and whiteness are the Enemy. And it is always the Enemy which unites most different people and makes strange bedfellows. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Except that in these days it only works against us...

This means swift condemnation of any such violent acts or harassment, Holocaust negation, or winks at skinheads.Blah... No matter how much you renounce everyone to your right as a Nazi, everyone to your left will still call you a Nazi. Conservatism is a losing game, in the neo-con way or in any way. We are on the losing side of history, and have been there since 1945, or 1914, or even 1789. We must fight to the end, do our duty to the past generations of Christian Europeans, but accept our defeat as a foregone conclusion.

"Optimism is cowardice." (Oswald Spengler)

 
At May 18, 2009 2:42 PM, Blogger politiskt hemlös said...

The problem with Geert Wilders is that he calls for outlawing the Quran because Mein Kampf is outlawed.

In my view neither book should be outlawed. His call for outlawing the Quran is pure book-burner mentality! Just as a ban on Mein Kampf. It's like fighting fire with fire, or fascism with fascism.

One can't call for censorship and complain about being jailed for one's propaganda, not, at least, if one is intellectually honest.

 
At May 18, 2009 4:34 PM, Blogger Bert said...

"many right-wing European parties are only using the Islamization of Europe as a convenient way to gain supporters"This assumption is the wrong way around I think. Wilders, Dewinter and others did not discover the issue with the electorate: they all discovered the issue in real life and by having a better look into Islam itself. These politicians put the issue on the agenda (Dewinter already in 1992) because of its threat to Western civilization. Only later on the electorate started supporting their efforts in growing numbers. It is much more convenient and less dangerous for that matter to try to smear and ridicule the democratic right-wing opposition and their electorate.

Front National maybe slowly looses ground. There are better (and not anti-Semitic) alternatives on the rise like Carl Lang (ex FN) and Nouvelle Droite Populaire. They also oppose Islamization.

The real danger to my opinion is not from right-wing parties, but from the left-wing and the extreme left. They not only share roots with National Socialism (remember Mitterrand), but also have a history of violence, choking free speech and are showing their anti-Semitism again. Besides that, they are siding with Islamists.

In the recent Europol annual report on terrorist attacks for instance it is also pointed out that there is only a serious left-wing and Islamist threat.

 
At May 18, 2009 4:59 PM, Blogger crusader88 said...

Nonetheless, the nationalist Right still seem quite a bit more trustworthy than proudly pro-Europe Libertas, though as you have pointed out earlier Libertas' French candidates are from reasonably euroskeptical parties.

 
At May 19, 2009 1:50 AM, Blogger Bert said...

@ politiskt hemlös:
Wilders did not call for a ban of the Koran. This is a popular misconception. What Wilders did say is something else, namely that it's illogical that the Quran is not banned while Mein Kampf is (which is done according to articles 132 and 137 of Dutch law).
Geert Wilders actually prefers abolishing laws of this kind, rather than banning the Quran.

On the other hand, there are several books banned and being banned one way or the other: The Downfall of the Netherlands, an outstanding Islam critical book, was banned in 1992 and became a real samizdad. Only recently, the book Inch'allah by Filip Dewinter was banned by bookstores in Flanders, and the widely praised book François Mitterrand, by Vincent Gounod, was immediately taken from the shelves the minute it became known that Vincent Gounod is actually Koen Dillen from Vlaams Belang.

Therefore I agree with you and with Wilders: books should not be banned.

 
At September 18, 2009 7:11 AM, Blogger The_Editrix said...

Tiberge, I see you have comment moderation enabled, so I know you will see this reply, although it is one to a fairly dated entry. I just noticed the backlink when I re-read an old post of mine. I don't know whether it will make much sense to publish this so belatedly, but it is more a reply to you personally anyway than to this specific entry.

First, thank you for linking to my post. My sentences may be too long and crowded, but my message, which you have "translated" quite competently anyway, is simple: There IS NO conservatism in Germany. Not in the meaning it has for Americans (small government, self-reliance and traditional values) anyway, and Americans are making a huge mistake if they don't see that. Bismarck, that paragon of German conservatism, introduced social security for the working classes, remember? That was the birth of the omnipresent German "Father State" without which nothing functions here. The political "right" here is by definition national (which is, of course, not wrong per se), xenophobic to the point of racist, paternalistic, and they see themselves as the advocate of "the little man in the streets". There is always a lot of talk about the "dawn of (whatever)" and a "new beginning", nothing of which is all that conservative.

Those rightists have, notabene, nothing against Islam as such, they just don't want strange looking people at their doorstep. In fact, the totalitarian aspect of Islam goes down very well with them. It will never cease to amaze me how any American could be actually AMAZED when Jörg Haider rubbed shoulders with Saddam Hussein. I repeat what I said in that old post already: Any (ANY!) political movement in Germany that carries nationalist overtones will by definition openly hate and despise America. Take it as an axiom.

As for the other European anti-Islam parties: I do not want to make the same mistake of which I am accusing Americans and talk about things of which I am not well enough informed. I am sure I'd know more after I'd attended a Vlaams Belang rally, but I haven't.

And of course Geert Wilders is a hero and a rare and true paragon of freedom and Western values. No doubt!

When I wrote that post the implications of the fact that Wilders was conspiciously absent from the Pro Köln rally didn't occur to me. Maybe his great confidante Pamella Geller finally had a word with him after she got all that flak. To blame Charles Whatshisname of LGF-infame for her non-attendance was beyond embarrassing.

 
At September 18, 2009 8:59 PM, Blogger tiberge said...

@ The Editrix

Thank you very much for your enlightening comments. I do at times have to kick myself in order to remind myself that American-style conservatism simply does not exist in modern Europe. But I think maybe it did to some extent, in France, under the monarchy. I think there was more of an emphasis on self-reliance, on the work ethic, and on patriotism (not Nazi-style nationalism). There was of course the Christian moral order as well. All of that got washed away in the Revolution. It is gone forever, even though in my posts I often express nostalgia for the "ancien régime".

In America, the rebellion against Obama's socialzed health care proves that we are not dead yet. There is still some of the old spirit left, though it has been crippled and silenced by the powerful Democratic totalitarianism, both in the media and in the educational institutions.

And you have confirmed my suspicion that many Europeans (both "nationalist" and socialist - assuming there is a difference) actually have a kind of admiration for Islam and its cruelty.

 

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