Friday, September 10, 2010

Liberty (Mis)guiding the People?

As Riposte Laïque examines the reasons for the poor turnout on September 4, and Bivouac-Id asks the French people "Where were you?", Christine Tasin, founder of Résistance Républicaine, an off-shoot of Riposte Laïque, has been hit with death threats and fatwas for her initiative in organizing the Apéro and her condemnation of Islam.

Eleven videos of the Paris Apéro have been posted at YouTube by Christine Tasin, and while I hate to sound like a puritanical nit-picker, I really felt that she should have dressed like a mature Frenchwoman and not like a girl of the streets. Actually she was (almost) dressed like "Marianne", the female figure with exposed breasts in the famous painting Liberty Guiding the People by Delacroix. The reason why her outfit displeased me is not that I am puritanical (though you may argue with that), but because I wanted the rally to be pro-Western and pro-France, not a statement on feminism. Feminism is a left-wing movement whose primary purpose is to remove restrictions on female behavior, leading to the decay of the family and irresponsible acts, such as illegitimate children, abortions on demand, sexual promiscuity, unjust quota systems, unjust parity laws, and aggressive competitiveness with men. Riposte Laïque, for example, applauded former Justice Minister Rachida Dati for daring to have an illegitimate child while in public office.

(I am not saying Dati should have been condemned. I'm saying she should not have been applauded or encouraged. But then, Dati should never have been Minister of Justice...)

This rally was to be an effort to draw attention to the dangers of Islam, instead it drew attention to Christine's ample bosom. I am sorry to criticize her in view of the dangers that now hover over her, but Riposte Laïque has to grow up, and realize that what they call "extreme Right" is nothing more than traditional values and the Christian moral code that allowed the growth of French civilization in the first place.

Though they have distanced themselves from the "extreme Left", they remain committed leftists who want to revive the Left as it was before it became so extreme! This will get them nowhere. They even have two spellings for the word Left - today's decadent dhimmi Left is "La Gôche", while the real Left that they want to revive is "La Gauche". They are going to have to overcome the phobia of being "right-wingers" and accept the fact that the words "Right" and "Left" have no meaning. You are either for France, her culture, her past, her survival, her heritage, her ethnic peoples, her language or you are not. I think some of them are aware of this.

It is important to realize that the Front National and the Bloc Identitaire were both notably absent from the Apéros. The FN has never participated, while the BI seems to have undergone a change of heart. Present at the June 18 Apéro, they sat this one out.

Without the support of patriotic groups such as these, Riposte Laïque may find itself painted into a corner, with only its own limited following.

Below is one of the videos of the gathering when they sang the Marseillaise. They are hardly any better at this than we are when we try to sing the Star Spangled Banner. Off-key, wrong lyrics, etc... At least there was a recording in the background to help them along. Does anybody learn national anthems anymore?

Here are some remarks from Catholic writer Yves Daoudal relevant to the above discussion:

(...) These gatherings were organized by leftist secularists ("laïcards") of Résistance Républicaine and Riposte Laïque. Their tract said:

"Let us commemorate in conviviality the 140th anniversary of the Third Republic, that passed the 1905 law separating Church and State!"

In other words, the Masonic and anti-clerical Republic of Jules Ferry, the Republic that waged war to the death against the Church. That is why on the home page of Riposte Laïque you can see Benedict XVI raising a glass of beer instead of a chalice.

This time the Identitarians (i.e. the Bloc Identitaire) did not join in the action. The anti-Islam "laïcards" quite simply proved that they were only a handful. As Jean Glavany, national secretary on laïcité for the Socialist Party has said: "To be a good 'laïque' today you have to encourage the building of mosques in France."

What a joke! The sacrosanct law separating Church and State is the instrument by which France will become Islamic! What would Voltaire say?

Daoudal then quotes a reader's comment posted at Bivouac-Id:

"The wounding remark made by Christine Tasin: "We are not of the extreme-Right", erases any remorse one may feel over not having participated. What this newly awakened leftist did not understand is that we can only succeed TOGETHER. Moreover, she is just getting started, while the Front National has been warning us for 30 years. During that time, she must have been voting for one of the camps who let in the most immigrants, which is no minor paradox. I'm beginning to see why François Desouche did not support these demonstrations."

And so, we are back at square one.

Below, Bivouac-Id asks "Where were you?"

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At September 10, 2010 2:17 AM, Blogger Durotrigan said...

Very interesting observations Tiberge. I had wondered what had happened to Bloc Identitaire on this occasion. Tasin and the various secular groups that participated in last Saturday’s protests need to get a grip and realise that adhering to a purist interpretation of a minority intellectual strand within the French Left will not save France from Islam. They need to understand that there is nothing bad about embracing a moderate nationalism.

As you correctly point out, the old labels of 'Left' and 'Right' are pretty much redundant. I don’t class myself as belonging to any ‘wing’, but simply as a moderate nationalist/culturist i.e. English but pro Western Civilisation and its many different national expressions. The ideas of the ‘Left’ have turned out to be a misguided dead end which fly in the face of human nature and history. Leftists have ignored the advances made in evolutionary psychology and genetics, as well as the experience of history.

I appreciate that we differ on religious issues (i.e. I have no religion), but agree that encouraging women to have children outside of marriage is good for no-one, for I do believe in commitment and providing a stable environment for children. By all means, Tasin and the protesters should contrast the slavery of women under Islam with their freedom in Western societies, but I think that it is mistaken to push a radical feminist agenda of the sort you mention with its quota systems, equality legislation and women placing career ahead of making a family and having children.

A strong coalition of these French secularist groups and nationalists needs to be forged if there is to be any chance of defeating Islam in France. That is the reality that Tasin and her supporters need to acknowledge.

At September 10, 2010 2:03 PM, Anonymous Michael Barger said...

First I want to thank GalliaWatch and Durotrigan for your stellar analyses. You are the only ones writing in English about RL and the Apéros, and what is happening in France is harbinger of things to come here in the US.

I am a Catholic who believes that separation of Church and State defends the rights of both the religious and secularists, though we will continue to struggle with accommodations in public life to the traditional role that religion has played.

What I see is a hopeful possibility of a formation of a cross-ideological alliance. We agree to disagree and focus like a laser on Islamist extremism.

So I am not sure Left and Right have no meaning any longer. It is dawning on both that Islamism is a far greater threat than the issues we are passionate about.

Again thanks to you both.

At September 10, 2010 2:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

as i said before:

Anonymous said...

They* also use the left wing against the right wing and use the right wing against the left wing. etc...

September 07, 2010 12:07 AM


At September 10, 2010 2:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

«...instead it drew attention to Christine's ample bosom.»

disgusting comment.

At September 10, 2010 11:28 PM, Blogger tiberge said...

Thanks to both Durotrigan and Michael Barger for your comments and your encouragement.


As for Christine's "ample bosom" it is not an insult to her attractiveness; it is a regret that she did not put other considerations ahead of her need to show off. "Ample bosom" is not a disgusting phrase. Sophia Loren and Marilyn Monroe certainly have ample bosoms. What you find objectionable is no doubt the fact that I find her appearance to be tantamount to exhibitionism. You are saying that no one should criticize her appearance, because she is free to dress as she pleases. That is precisely what I don't like about feminism - it encourages women to dress provocatively, then admonishes anyone who finds that they dress provocatively.

I wish Christine the best in her efforts, and I certainly don't want anything to happen to her. The fatwas from the Muslims, the scurrilous words from rapper Cortex and other rappers will not, I'm sure, deter her, but I stand by my own judgment that modern feminism is not what the struggle is about. It is about preserving traditional French civilization, which included both men and women engaged in all kinds of efforts to create an extraordinary culture. Women have always been at the center of family life, and of education. They have always had major roles to play in the professions, the arts and medicine. They should not feel that they have to flaunt their wares in order to prove they are "emancipated."

At September 11, 2010 1:19 PM, Blogger kkollwitz said...

"it encourages women to dress provocatively, then admonishes anyone who finds that they dress provocatively."

Thank you. I may forward this to my daughters.

At September 17, 2010 9:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In many cultures, breasts aren't sexual at all. For example, women in Mali go around with bare breasts. They're always feeding their babies. When they were told that in our culture men are fascinated with breasts, they burst out laughing. They laughed so hard, they fell on the floor. They said, "You mean, men act like babies?"

At October 03, 2010 6:14 PM, Anonymous t8 said...

'Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow.' -Lawrence Clark Powell-


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