Friday, November 12, 2010

November 11 - Fountains of Blood

I was unable to post for almost three days. Today, November 11, browsing through François Desouche, I find several articles and videos relevant to the commemoration of the WWI armistice. In fifty cities throughout France, protests against the war in Afghanistan took the form of a reminder of the blood that has been shed by French soldiers. Red color was poured into the fountains in Paris, below:



And in Lyons below:


This graphic display of anti-war sentiment was the initiative of the Bloc Identitaire, the association of regional groups who oppose Islam. According to the Bloc:

"Fighting Islamization is a duty. But it is here at home, in the ghettoes, that we have to fight! Fifty French soldiers killed, is fifty deaths too many: We demand the return of our soldiers from Afghanistan!"


Novopress, the news agency for the Bloc, sounds off in a bitter article blaming the United States for the continuation of the useless war:

(...) Diplomats are there to start wars, they say, soldiers to finish them. On the condition that our vital interests are at stake. Such is not the case in Afghanistan. Contrary to all his campaign promises, Nicolas Sarkozy reenforced the French commitment for no other reason than to obey American demands. For "this is an American war", said General Desportes clearly, (...) in Le Monde on July 2. 2010. An American war that reenforces the integration of our army into the imperialist plans of NATO. Nicolas Sarkozy - the man who spits on the tomb of De Gaulle! (...)

The article goes on to say that American geo-strategic interests and oil are the real reasons for the war.

The readers at François Desouche (at least the first 40 or 50 comments) approve of the Bloc's initiative.

My only comment is that America has had inferior leaders who were not able to see the futility of converting an Islamic country into a democracy. As for Obama, he, like his predecessor (and like Sarkozy for that matter), is continuing the war all the while bowing down (literally) to the Muslims. The initial entry of America into Afghanistan was entirely justified considering what had happened on 9/11. But a good commander-in-chief recognizes the folly of pursuing a chimera at the cost of human lives, and the even greater folly of underestimating the enemy. We have not had good commanders-in-chief in recent decades. Ironically, it was a weakened and morally ambiguous America that France decided to follow. De Gaulle would have had more sense.

We have to fight Islam. But not by creating a modern-day Waterloo from which America emerges even weaker and more humiliated than before. The only way we can win the war is by closing American borders to Muslims, and by allowing the whole truth about this political and religious ideology, so far removed from our way of life, to be known in an atmosphere free of taboos and political correctness. France should do the same, assuming it is not too late.


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5 Comments:

At November 12, 2010 4:38 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your last paragraph is very good, its very good indeed. The right amount of resolve and restraint. Also the indentitybloc statement that we should be fighting at home - its more true for France but soon will be true for Australia and the US. The numbers of the mooslims in the New World are growing very quickly, well certainly here in Australia they seem to be growing very quickly. Their presence on the street is quite noticeable now. Four or six years ago in my state capital city you hardly ever saw them. Now l can see 20 at least when l drive two miles across town. You see them in pairs and on their own - and of course l'm referring to the females. They are noticeable for their attire obviously but the males unless they have a beard or telltale dress you just dont know any more. When older Anglo Australians come to my store they often seem relaxed to be somewhere theyre being served by the same old kind of Australian, this is what l sense. With the newcomers a lot of them you dont know if theyre mooslim or not. l can never trust the mooslims any more - l know sudden onset jihadi syndrome is a possibility so l am obviously quite guarded if l am unsure about someones origin. Hey its human nature to be like that follow on US public radio.

 
At November 12, 2010 9:25 AM, Blogger Dymphna said...

A Brit sent me the URL to your site. Since we are sorely lacking in French materials on our blog, I am going to link to you when I get our blogroll cleaned out of deadwood. Could take a while!

I agree our foreign policy is a mess and is causing detestable loss of life. I'm not even sure that it wasn't masterminded by the Muslim Brotherhood since they have infiltrated to the highest levels of America's federal bureauacracy. Obama is as clueless as was Bush, and the latter was badly betrayed by Turkey just before the start of the Iraq war in 2003. That delay alone cost many lives.

But it is hard for me to imagine what Iraq would have been like had the Butcher stayed in power. All those mass graves, some of which continue to be found. Perhaps it would have been better to let Iran and Iraq continue to duke it out?

War is a complicated, devilish thing. But it is as old as human society. The fear of "Other" is hardwired into mammalian brains.

I don't know how to parse the problem but I firmly believe the simplistic "answers" of the rabidly anti-war groups will not serve.

Glad to have found your blog

 
At November 12, 2010 4:10 PM, Anonymous dauphin said...

Foreign wars are rarely popular, but if we let Afghanistan go and the taliban take control again, they can help overthrow Pakistan and Islamists will control their nukes which you can be sure they will use. So the choice as I see it is to pull out, let them do what they want in their own borders, and then in 5 years or so, be in the undesirable position of having to make a pre-emptive nuclear strike, potentially killing 100's of thousands, with possible reprisals from Iran, sending us into a nuclear winter. I think "boots on the ground" is the lesser evil.

I deplore and grieve for the deaths of French soldiers anywhere, but this is the business they have chosen, and France will be diminished internationally if it pulls out, which will be seen by the Muslim world as weakness and a victory for them. It may be an "unwinnable" war, but I don't think there are any good options. Globally, the war with the extremists may last generations. Also, soldiers being sent in to the ghettos is not a good idea, even JMLP did not think so.

 
At November 12, 2010 5:32 PM, Anonymous dauphin said...

Off-topic but related to Islamicization, I have seen this program in the US which I think is an excellent source of information, not just for the US, but internationally, even if one may not agree with his interpretation of scripture. Here is the website:

http://www.hallindsey.com/

 
At November 13, 2010 1:55 AM, Blogger tiberge said...

@ dymphna

I hope my website can be of some service to you.

As for the war in Iraq, I believe one of our biggest errors was not to place the protection of Christians AHEAD of "nation-building" for the Muslims. We believed that the Iraquis wanted to be like us, that they wanted our life-style. At least Bush believed it. Once the Muslims were back in power (as opposed to the secular Sadaam) they lost no time in attacking and murdering Christians. So many Christians from Iraq had to leave. Some sought refuge in France. I think Bush's egalitarianism or ecumenicalism, if you will, was the worst thing that happened. Of course, we didn't know when it started where it would lead. Many tried to warn Bush not to invade Iraq, or at least not to attempt the impossible feat of converting them to our way of life. But he could not listen.

Yes, Sadaam was awful. But he allowed the Christians to practice their faith, something the Muslim leaders will not do.

Basically Bush did in Iraq what Clinton had done in Kosovo, with comparable results - disaster.

 

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