Asking Forgiveness
A reader sent me the above photo with this comment:
Terrible to watch the Crown Prince Haakon, the future King of Oslostan - or Medina(?), sitting on the carpet to the left in the photo, while Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre is standing up, to the right, asking forgiveness in the "World Islamic Mission Mosque", after last Friday attacks on the government and on the AUF youth at Utøya.
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In another part of the comment my reader goes on to explain why Oslo may one day be called Medina.
Here are excerpts from a speech delivered in 2005 from the Temple Mount in Jerusalem by Sheikh Issam Amira:
“Listeners! The Moslems in Denmark make up three percent [of the population], yet constitute a threat to the future of the Danish kingdom. It’s no surprise that in Bitrab (the ancient name of Medina, a city in Arabia to which Mohammed immigrated) they were fewer than three percent of the general population, but succeeded changing the regime in Bitrab.
“It’s no surprise that our brothers in Denmark have succeeded in bringing Islam to every home in that country. Allah will grant us victory in their land to establish the [Islamic] revolution in Denmark.”
After Denmark, the Sheikh said, the party will carry the revolution to Oslo and change its name to Medina. “They will fight against their Scandinavian neighbors in order to bring the country into the territory of the revolution,” he said. “In the next stage, they will fight a holy jihad to spread Islam to the rest of Europe, until it spreads to the original city of Medina where the two cities will unite under the Islamic flag.”
Sheikh Riyad Salah, head of the Islamic movement in Israel has also been active teaching the tenets of “Islamic revolution.”
“We are at the gates of the Islamic revolution,” he proclaims in his sermons to Arab citizens of Israel. “The global forces of evil will be eliminated from the world and the Islamic nation will remain in place in order to bring about the world Islamic revolution, with its capital, Jerusalem.”
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My reader closes his comment with:
Why Norway and Denmark? Because of the relatively weak populations, and the open societies. Easy to conquer.
This is an indication of the degree to which the Muslims could profit from the massacre and use it for their own ends. This is precisely what so many of us are afraid of. And it is why Breivik either is a psychopathic killer with no concern for humanity or a great double-crosser, who does realize that his act will play into Muslim hands. If it turns out that he is really an anti-Islamic ideologue, then, I'm sorry, I don't know what to say, and I'll let others do the analyzing.
Labels: Denmark, Dhimmitude, Islam, Norway
posted by tiberge @ 7:46 PM
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breivik used to eat at a turkish restaurant, some agents from the turkish secret services spend a lot of time there:
http://www.e-libertad.es/libertad/2011/07/25/2174/
9.- ¿Por qué ninguna fuente oficial ha revelado que Anders Behring Breivik solía comer en el restaurante Milano de Rena, propiedad de los ciudadanos turcos Ali Aykut y Bilal Guclu, un lugar muy frecuentado por miembros de los servicios secretos del país otomano?
the islamic lobby in the media doen't let it out.
las week a girl was raped by a muslim on the steps of the parliament. they did nothing.
When and where did this happen and is there a source which can confirm that this really happened?
breivik is anti-islamic but he killed white people
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why did all the norwegian embassies receive orders to avoid linking the terrorist attack to islam spite the threat made by the salafist group who some months earlier had threatened norway due to the publishing of mohammad cartoons?
why was mullah krekar, leader of the local islamists, told to leave norway after the terrorist attack and go to an arab country?
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Please note:
I post these comments in the general interest, but cannot vouch for their veracity. I too was wondering about the girl raped on the steps of Parliament. If anyone has a link, even in Norwegian, please send it.
Nor do I have any answers to the most recent comment about mullah Krekar.
"I too was wondering about the girl raped on the steps of Parliament. If anyone has a link, even in Norwegian, please send it."
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2011/07/rape-on-steps-of-parliament.html
"Nor do I have any answers to the most recent comment about mullah Krekar."
http://www.e-libertad.es/libertad/2011/07/25/2174/
Hi Tiberge. Here is the Norwegian link to that story from Dagbladet:
http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/19/nyheter/voldtekt/innenriks/overgrep/politiet/17354669/
Here is a translation from the Norwegian found at Document.no:
"Security guards zoomed in rape — did not go outside until assault was completed
The Stortinget security guards followed the rape of the almost unconscious 20-year old directly on video without intervening.
The security guards changed the surveillance camera from panorama shots to zoom in on the rape being perpetrated on the steps of Stortinget, but did not go to the scene before the perpetrator was finished and about to leave the area.
“I can confirm that our people have contributed video to the police in conjunction with this event. My section is always at work, but we are primarily there to ensure the safety of the national Norwegian parliament,” says the Stortinget security chief Gerrit Løberg to Dagbladet.
“We assisted in a way that ensured the perpetrator was apprehended,” he continues.
“Would you have intervened if you have discovered this?”
“No, when a crime is taking place, the police are contacted. As I understand it, they arrived promptly.”
When Dagbladet asks for a meeting about the security officers’ behaviour, Gerrit Løberg replies:
“No. We have a lot to do today. But I understand that you want to make a big thing out of this, and it’s a dry news season.”
The images from the surveillance camera also show that several people pass by without intervening. Someone stops and smiles, and at least one person is alleged to have taped the brutal assault on the almost unconscious woman.
The 15-year-old North African asylum-seeker who is suspected of the rape has been released from custody. Neither the victim or the witnesses have contacted the police."
@ Jewel and anonymous
Thanks to both of you for your prompt response. Everyone should be aware of this. It is hard for me to believe that this is Norway. It's just unbelievable.
As for the other link to the Spanish-language post, I skimmed it quickly, but my Spanish is not great. I'll go back and try again. However, the blogger says it is a translation from one of the Huffington Post blogs. There are many Huffington blogs and he did not provide a link, unfortunately.
tiberge
«, it was only a year ago that Norwegian authorities thwarted an al Qaeda plot to attack Norway.
Second, today’s attacks were nearly simultaneous. An al Qaeda calling card.
Third, it was only last week that that Norwegian authorities indicted Mullah Krekar, founder of the Ansar al-Islam, for threats against Norwegian politicians.
Fourth, a Muslim organization called Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami claimed responsibility for the attack. This is the most notable point of all. I mean what kind of people brag about murdering innocent civilians they did not kill?»
http://sheikyermami.com/2011/07/24/marxist-hunter-anders-behring-breivik/comment-page-1/
7.- ¿Por qué las embajadas noruegas en el mundo recibieron instrucciones, la tarde del mismo viernes, de descartar la implicación islámica en los atentados, pese a que fue inicialmente reivindicado por el mismo grupo salafista que, meses antes, amenazó con provocar una matanza en respuesta a la publicación de unas caricaturas de Mahoma en un periódico de aquel país? ¿Por qué se invitó al líder de los islamistas locales, el mulá Krekar, a abandonar Noruega rumbo a un país árabe en la mañana del sábado, según han revelado fuentes periodísticas israelíes?
why norwegian embassies all over the world were ordered, on that same afternoon, to discard the islamic connections on the terrorist attack, though its authorship of the attack was initially claimed by the same salafist group, who some months earlier, threatened to cause a big killing as a reply to the publishing of the cartoons by a norwegian newspaper? why was the local leader of the islamists told to leave norway and go to an arab country?
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breivik attacked the newspaper.
10.- ¿Por qué no informa el Gobierno escandinavo de un informe que el legendario servicio secreto israelí le hizo llegar en septiembre de 2010, en el que se alertaba de algunos movimientos islamistas que habían sido detectados en las dos principales ciudades noruegas, Oslo y Bergen, como parte de un elaborado plan para perpetrar una masacre terrorista similar a la del viernes, que contaría incluso con la participación directa de colaboradores locales?
why doesn't the norwegian government tells about an information given by the legendary israeli secret service on september 2010, which was an alert on some islamists movements that were detected on the main norwegian cities, oslo and bergen, as part of an elaborated plan to go ahead with a terrorist killing similar to that of oslo, which would count with the participation of local colaborators?
4.- ¿Por qué tardó la policía noruega una hora y cuarto en tomar posiciones en la isla de Utoya, pese a los desesperados requerimientos telefónicos que hicieron los aterrorizados jóvenes a partir de que cayesen las primeras víctimas?
why did the norwegian police took an hour and 15 minutes to take positions in utoya, spite the desperate phone calls from the terrorized people as soon as the first victims started to fall?
1.- ¿Cómo se las ingenió Anders Behring Breivik para hacer detonar un coche bomba frente al complejo gubernamental de Oslo, alejarse 40 kilómetros de la capital a bordo de un taxi y sin ser interceptado por las fuerzas de seguridad, para finalmente adentrarse con una barca en la isla de Utoya, donde supuestamente tiroteó, disfrazado de policía, a decenas de jóvenes que participaban en un campamento de verano vinculado al partido laborista?
how did anders behring breivik managed to explode a bomb-car in front of the governmental building complex of oslo, move 40 kilometers away from the town by taxi without being intercepted by the security force, to finally go by boat to the island of utoya, where supposedly shot, disguized as a policeman, dozens of youths who were participating in a summer camp of the labour party?
2.- ¿Por qué tras no se cortaron las carreteras de entrada y salida a la capital noruega hasta una hora después del atentado con bomba en la zona gubernativa?
why weren't the exit streets of oslo blocked before one hour had passed after the terrorist attack in the governmental area?
3.- ¿Por qué carecía de vigilancia policial el viernes la isla de Utoya, cuando sólo un día antes contó con una veintena de agentes armados hasta los dientes? ¿Es verosímil que una reunión política de los jóvenes del partido gen el Gobierno no contase con un sólo efectivo policial el día de autos?
why there wasn't police vigilance in utoya island on the day of the terrorist attack since the day before there were at least 20 agents armed to their teeths? is it likely that a youth meeting of the political party which is governing wouldn't count with policial agents on the day of the attack?
Breivikism:
«Anders Breivik Denounced English Defence League For Eschewing Violence
These words have been available for several days now, yet the mainstream media ignores them and continues to try and draw links between the EDL and Breivik. These ruthless and dirty tactics are what convinced Breivik that democracy and dialogue were hopeless. It should be obvious that it is the mainstream media and liberal politicians who pushed Breivik over the edge. They should be investigating themselves.»
http://saberpoint.blogspot.com/search/label/Anders%20Behring%20Breivik
Tiberge, always be careful when using a Huffington Post citation. There are a number of reasons, chief of which are bias and accuracy. On the other side of that argument are articles, often posted on the Drudge Report (heavily read link dump) which use Infowars links as news sources. Neither Huffpo or Infowars are really good sources for information.
I cannot possibly add very much to what the comments say. First, a reminder that the Spanish article is actually a translation from an English article somewhere in the Huffington pool of blogs. I cannot vouch for anything, but I think I can, perhaps, offer some possible answers to these questions. Norway, we have learned, is very lax, very liberal, and very eager to please Muslims. Therefore:
1) It is not surprising that their embassies were ordered to reject the thesis of a Muslim attack, when it was learned that the killer was not a Muslim.
2) Most countries do not divulge warnings, such as the one purported to be from Israel, to the press or the general population. This is done for "security" reasons, it is done to prevent panic, and it is done to appease Muslims.
3) I read that the helicopter police were all on vacation on the day of the killings. It is a strange and ominous coincidence, but I cannot say it was not a coincidence, until we learn more.
4) How did he manage to explode his bomb and get away? Why weren't the streets blocked? Because Norway is a GOOD country and refuses to see evil. Therefore, it would not do anything fascistic like blocking streets or chasing after a criminal, any more than it would stop a 15-year old rapist from raping a girl on the steps of the government building.
5) Why no police on the island that day? Because it was a meeting of Labor Youth, GOOD people, hence no police would be needed.
To be continued...
What I am saying in the previous comment is simply that we don't know for sure that this was an "Al-Qaeda" style operation, planned ahead by Muslims. It could be, but we don't know that yet.
What we do know is that it was patterned after Al-Qaeda because Breivik was imitating those methods. He was saying in effect: "The Left has allowed the Muslims to attack the West, now I will attack the Left using the same methods."
The result is the opposite of what he intended (assuming he intended to teach the Left a lesson).
Therefore, whatever his motives, he has played right into the hands of the Left and the Muslims.
Therefore he is a double-crosser, but this double-cross may be merely the accidental consequence not the intended consequence.
We don't know.
It would be so rational if it turned out that he was a Muslim operative. But we don't know that yet.
And he is a psychopathic killer in any case, like those men in the airplanes on 9/11. We must remember that a psychopathic killer is completely aware of what he is doing. He is not "mad". There is a well-organized method in his madness.
@ Jewel,
Thank you for the word of caution. I rarely go to Huffington because it is one of those sites that has too many distractions. I never know where I am or where I'm going. I prefer straightforward, simpler sites.
Those ten questions in the Spanish article are very interesting, but they can be answered within the context of Norwegian laxness and fear-of-looking-like-a-fascist mentality.
This is like Rashomon - everybody sees in this massacre whatever they want to see.
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tiberge, I apologize if I have been inaccurate!
Crown Prince Haakon is sitting in the middle in the photo, but is the one sitting to the right among the three men on the floor.
To the far left is the Oslo bishop Ole Christian Kvarme.
And now
The Prime Minister, Jens Stoltenberg is going to the largest Oslo mosque on Friday, tomorrow, to mark that one week has passed since the attacks.
Mullah Krekar was in his mosque last Friday during the blast, says his lawyer Brynjar Meling. Which mosque? Could it be the same one as the one Stoltenberg is going to visit this Friday? Will, in other words, the PM get the chance to say hi to the mullah that still keeps spewing death threats and should have been out of the country a long time ago.
Actually, this expelled in waiting individual, is enjoying protection on taxpayers' money, and the PM can not expell him for fear of his life if returned to his country Iraq.
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10080964
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- Very interesting!
Anders Behring Breivik has made a clear point that he was attacking the media
Is there still no more news about the political commentator of VG, who died only a few weeks back, floating near the boat with the engine running?
VG said there would be an autopsy, although nothing criminal could be suspected. After that, total silence.
3) I read that the helicopter police were all on vacation on the day of the killings. It is a strange and ominous coincidence, but I cannot say it was not a coincidence, until we learn more.
Why on Friday 22 July?
His lawyer just answered that this was the day "when he was ready".
6.- ¿Por qué Anstein Gjengedal, jefe de la policía de Oslo y simpatizante del partido laborista, ha impedido que las cámaras televisivas tengan acceso a la declaración judicial de Breivik ante el juez? ¿Acaso pretendía acotar las revelaciones del presunto homicida sobre hechos trascendentales de la tragedia?
why anstein gjengedal, chief of the police of oslo, labour party sympathizer, has prevented the cameramen from having acess to the judicial declaration of breivik before the judge? did he by chance wanted to hide the revelations of the alleged murderer about transcental acts on the tragedy?
Muslim tie-in early on but retracted. Closing of the high-speed rail-ling to the airport for a package by the rails. Yet lack of blast crater from supposed car bomb is mystically missing from any mainstream coverage.
What about the perp’s family and friends? Will they be somehow rewarded for his evildoing? I would want the perp’s family and friends to be followed in terms of money – any big purchases, any living beyond their means? (Could be perp is patsy who is willing to take the fall as long as those closest to him are well rewarded.)
It's Nothing like a “fertilizer bomb” at OK City. Why is the building so intact that is by the pictures I have seen??
I don't know why the cameramen would be barred from the courtroom, except that cameramen usually are barred from courtrooms, are they not?
If it is customary in Norway to allow the TV cameras in on a session between an alleged mass murderer and a judge, that would be very surprising. But I do not know Norwegian law or customs.
It still makes no sense to say that the helicopter police were not there because "he was ready". This would mean that the Norwegian police (who I presume are more or less liberal and sympathize with the Labor Party, and its pro-Palestinian stand) would allow a group of youngsters who were pro-Palestinian to be murdered.
It makes no sense at all. But, of course, we don't not have enough accurate information.
What you are implying is that these people were deliberately sacrificed in order to make it look as if a "blond Christian pro-Israeli Norwegian xenophobe" had killed them, thus paving the way for a stronger Muslim presence and a greater snuffing out of "free speech", assuming Norway has any left.
It may be true. But it's insane!
July 28, 2011 5:56 PM
turkey doesn't recognize the armenian genocide
turkey invade cyprus
there are honour killins in turkey
etc
turkey is shameless:
Turkish human rights commission to monitor racism across Europe
From Will at The Other News:
The Turkish Parliament’s Human Rights Investigation Committee has announced that it will closely monitor extreme right and Islamophobic movements in Europe, including hatred and hostility toward European residents of Turkish origin.Committee president and a deputy of the Justice and Development Party (AK Party) Ayhan Sefer Üstün said it has launched a program to monitor the course of the investigation into the Oslo massacre.
Üstün further stated that they were in contact with Dutch authorities regarding an investigation of police officers thought to be responsible for the death of Turkish immigrant İhsan Gürz in a Dutch prison on July 2.Speaking to Today’s Zaman, Üstün said European politicians should start questioning themselves and their immigration policies in the aftermath of the Oslo massacre, and also in light of a sharp increase in the number of reports of Turks and other nationals of Muslim background being killed in prison due to alleged police brutally.According to Üstün, the committee was planning to send a delegation to various European countries. “As the Turkish Parliament’s Human Rights Committee, we are drafting a report on the reasons for increasing hostility toward Turks in Europe and on the possible measures that can be taken to combat it. We will meet with European parliamentary officials and get involved in the efforts to curb increasing racism in Europe.”
Üstün believes that European politicians, in a simple bid for votes, had fanned the flame of xenophobia in Europe by staying silent in the face of developments that have turned innocent foreigners into outsiders in European societies, failing to see that far right and racist movements had turned monstrous.
The committee president went on to explain that European bureaucrats and administrators were no more rational in assessing the right-wing threat than the politicians.
“They went so overboard with measures to protect their countries from outside attacks that they were completely intolerant to the distressed people fleeing Libya. Treating the most innocent foreigner as a potential aggressor, they failed to see what the bred and raised racist in Europe was capable of. Did such a huge price have to be paid to understand that violence and terror have no nationality or color?”
Üstün described racism as a disease that would take at least one generation to treat, stating again that the price paid in Oslo was the cost of policies promoting xenophobia instead of preventing dangerous far-right movements.Üstün said he had no doubt that the obstacles Turkey has faced in its application for EU membership are due to this racist subconscious.
“Particularly the French and German politicians have a huge responsibility in this. The came up with double-standards and unimaginably irrational obstacles to block Turkey’s membership in order to maintain the dual-hegemony they enjoy [over the EU]. These irrational efforts and attitudes of politicians secretly feed racist violence and hostility against Turks. The increasing number of attacks targeting Muslims, particularly Turks, including setting homes on fire and murdering innocent people, are all happening because of these damaging policies.”
Wouldn't the Turkish 'human rights commission' better look at all the so called 'honor killings' in Turkey , not mentioning the many innocent Journalist cast away in Turkish prisons just for trying to use freedom of speech?Or the Kurdish people being systematically persecuted?After WWII Europe recognised the Genocide of the Jews unlike the Turks who still don't recognise their Armenian Genocide.As PM Erdogan stated "Muslims don't commit Genocide"?
And finally :The European Court of Human Rights " Turkey is worst human rights violator".
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zapatero is shameless:
Spain: Zapatero wants Morocco and Turkey in the EU as a “gesture of conciliation with the Islamic world”
That the only casualties of the twin bombings of Norway are European origin and people outside the Islamic religion has not prevented the Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, from calling on EU leaders for Morocco and Turkey to be allowed entry into the European Union as a gesture of reconciliation with the Islamic world.
July 28, 2011 8:24 PM
it wouldn't be the first time that leftists killed like that.
«The Spanish Government’s President spoke about that support in phone calls to both to the Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, and the Alawite ruler of Morocco (what do Erdogan and King Mohammed VI have to do with Norwegian murder? No Muslim was murdered, no Moroccan or Turkish citizen was murdered or hurt…), in which he reiterated his commitment to the alliance of civilizations as the only way possible for a north-south agreement. Zapatero argues that both Turkey and Morocco meet the requirements set by the EU to join their project.»
DISGUSTING!
The Herald Sun 28 July 2011- Czech Pres. Vaclav Klaus “Environmentalists hate us, the humans. They consider us dangerous and sinful creatures who must be controlled by them. Global warming alarmists “want to change us, they want to change our behaviour, our way of life, our values and preferences. They want to restrict our freedom because they themselves believe they know what is good for us. They are not interested in climate. …what is in danger is freedom, not the climate”.
The explosion was the result of a gas leak in the building…..hours before Ander’s snapped and blew away a bunch of people.The explosion is the result of an underground natural gas leak that accumulated in the building which finally detonated.
Regarding the family of Breivik, all I know is that his mother is mentally crippled by venereal disease and his father abandoned him when he was a baby. His father is supposed to have said "Why didn't he kill himself instead of others"? He is also quoted as saying "Now I will have to live with this shame for the rest of my life." Breivik blames feminism for the sexual promiscuity that ultimately ruined his mother's life.
Here are two links to The Thinking Housewife:
On his father:
http://www.thinkinghousewife.com/wp/2011/07/more-on-breiviks-father/
On his mother:
http://www.thinkinghousewife.com/wp/2011/07/and-breiviks-mother/#more-26905
Breivik really could be what they say he is - a child destroyed by left-wing policies and morals (or lack), who has had revenge festering in him for a long time and finally executed his plan. He aids and abets the Left but he may not realize it (or care).
«It’s also a gender factor. All the statistics I’ve seen indicate that 70% of males support Cultural Conservatism (anti-Islamisation) while the same amount of females support Cultural Communism (Islamisation).”» -breivik
he's a moron
Fourteen Year Old Child Gang-Raped by muslims in Norway
An article on Western Voices News reports: “A 14-year-old girl in Trondheim took her own life after being assaulted and raped by three teenage boys. Only four weeks after she reported the rape at Kristiansten fortress, the ninth grader could not bear to live any longer.
It started with a "Allahu akbar" (our god is greater)
PM Jens Stoltenberg greeted the audience with "Dear everybody" and «Salam aleikum».
Continuing with "The New We". A phrase also known a phrase emphazized by Tariq Ramadan - "The New We Is Us" (Have come to stay...), who has been visiting Norway numerous times, promoting his books and God knows what else.
His speech word by word
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10081057
Breivik's father
- He should have killed himself
The father was interviewed by TV2, Norwegian TV, not having had much contact with his son since he was a child.
Prior to this, from his residence in a little village in France, he was reported as having said he was shocked to learn from the net that his son had committed these atrocities in Oslo.
The father says his son should have killed himself after what he has done.
Norwegians and muslims killed
Please se list of victims here
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/ofre/
At one point it was said that 80, eighty, foreigners were attending the AUF camp at Utøya island.
To previous camps Fatah youth have been invited, so you understand that it's been an international socialist thing.
The corporate media insisted that Breivik was solely responsible for Norway’s worst violent attack since World War II. Norwegian police reports that a second gunman, described as having “thick dark hair and a non-Nordic appearance,” were suppressed in much of the corporate media. The time line of the Oslo attack causes anyone’s imagination to be stretched on being sold a “lone gunman/bomber” theory.
It's Nothing like a “fertilizer bomb” at OK City. Why is the building so intact that is by the pictures I have seen??
The bomb exploded in the car parked outside the government building
There's a crater where the bomb exploded. Under the surface there is a system of tunnels which may have prevented the building from tumbling, according to experts.
Photo - Crater
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10080904
«At last, some apparently definitive information. After a jihad group curiously claimed responsibility and retracted, and after some terror experts said it was a jihad attack and some said it wasn't, and after the media pointed to jihadists as essentially the only ones with a motive, and Islamic supremacists applauded the attack, it appears that it was not a jihad attack after all. »
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/07/norway-camp-shooter-identified----authorities-say-he-was-working-alone-and-attacks-were-not-islamic.html
Assisstants of the Global Jihad" May Have Uploaded a Video Predicting the Oslo Attacks Days Several Days Ago?
From Fast Company:
A terrorists group has claimed responsibility for today's attacks in Oslo, Norway--which included the bombing of the Prime Minister's office and a massacre at a children's day camp by a gunman dressed as a police officer--using social media.
An obscure group called Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami (Assistants of the Global Jihad) posted a message on an Islamist bulletin board called Smukh and may have uploaded a video to YouTube several days ago predicting the attack, in which at least seven people were killed.
Ansar al-Jihad's Abu Sulayman al-Nasir allegedly posted a message claiming responsibility for the Oslo attacks on the Arabic-language jihadist forum Shamikh. According to a partial translation by terrorism expert Will McCants of Jihadica, al-Nasir claims the attacks were in retribution for the occupation of Afghanistan by foreign troops and unnamed insults to the Muslim prophet Muhammad. Al-Nasir also threatens further attacks:
We have warned since the Stockholm raid of more operations and we have demanded that the countries of Europe withdraw from the land of Afghanistan and end their war on Islam and Muslims. What you see is only the beginning and there is more to come.
The “Stockholm raid” reference is in response to a 2010 suicide bombing in Sweden.
The original post on Shamikh was taken offline and apparently replaced by the terrorist version of a 404 page.
Commenters on Twitter are also claiming that a Polish-language video uploaded to YouTube several days ago and taken later taken offline predicted terrorist attacks in Oslo. However, since the video is not available, the veracity of this claim is unknown. An alleged cache of the YouTube clip is shown below.
The Norwegian Prime Minister's office was hit by what appears to be a sophisticated car bomb, and a gunman opened fire on a day camp in Oslo affiliated with the Norwegian Labor Party. An exact casualty count is not known, but Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg is unharmed.
This is an ongoing story; media sources are still unclear on the number of bombs that have gone off in Oslo, the number of casualties, and what exactly happened at the day camp shooting. We recommend checking the Twitter feeds of the New York Times, BBC, and Norwegian journalist Rune Håkonsen for the latest.
A couple of his favorite blogs Anders Breivik linked are called iMuslim and Organic Muslim.
1)If Breivik was anti-Muslim, wouldn't he have brought down a mosque or Islamic center?
2)Why would he attack "white" Norwegians?
3)How could one person kill/shoot 80 people running for their lives in all directions?
4)When would he have time to plant the unexploded bombs on the island?
5)How did he have the time to schedule a boat to the island, which, I understand, takes 40 minutes?
6)How could there be 80 killed on the island, but only 7 (as reported) in the massive blasts in Oslo?
7)Why is there speculation that only one or 2 car bombs could do all that damage in Oslo? It seems obvious that there were more than 2 car/van bombs.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Tiberge
"I don't know why the cameramen would be barred from the courtroom, except that cameramen usually are barred from courtrooms, are they not?"
The police asked that the court be closed for several reasons
- fearing that Breivik would send coded messages to accomplices
- fearing an air of lynching
Normally, press and public are allowed into the courtroom, and then have to leave if the judge decides to keep the trial behind closed doors.
The English language facebook page identifying the killer as a “Christian” & “Conservative” was created AFTER his killing spree was over.
Norway police arrive 90 minutes after firing began|Europe|chinadaily.com.cn
According to this article, apparently the SWAT teams couldn't get to the island for an hour and a half after the shootings began because they ''couldn't find a boat'' and ''didn't have access to a helicopter.'' Yet there was apparently ''footage shot from a helicopter'' of the gunman firing into the water.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2011-07/24/content_12969828.htm
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4099122,00.html
Norway youths discussed Palestine prior to attack
Forty-eight hours before Friday massacre, teens participating in ruling party youth camp met with Norwegian foreign minister. Some called for boycott of Israel
THEY WERE SUPPORTING TERRORIST HAMAS
A man who lived with his mother for all his life and with no experience of killing anyone/military combat has carried out the most brutal and clinically executed terrorist action in Western Europe by an individual ever?
Better planning than than experienced IRA or ETA units?
Despite a bomb in Oslo at the PMs offices and the knowledge the PM was scheduled to be heading to the Island no miliatary or Police units were sent there in the aftermath, no road blocks or security measures were put in place?
While the massacre was happening no military helicopters with snipers were put into the air? Or attempted to land on the Island?
When SWAT units did arrive it was 90 mins later - by boat?
In the meantime press helicopters were given clearance to fly over taking pictures of the ongoing killings, again no attempt was made to land?
The guy appears to have no friends or close contacts, his social network page was set up a few weeks ago and all the pictures appear to be studio taken shots?
He has a full manifesto of everything pro-immigration governments want to crack down on - within hours of him being named the British PM was on TV talking about new measures to crack down on people with these ideas 'on the right' ?
Obviously this happened, these kids are dead, but really who will this benefit?
"The explosion was the result of a gas leak in the building…..hours before Ander’s snapped and blew away a bunch of people.The explosion is the result of an underground natural gas leak that accumulated in the building which finally detonated."
From where do you have this information?
As far as I know, natural gas is not part of the Norwegian government's energy system.
@tiberge
Please be aware of any attempts of misinformation and myth building here
Don't a couple of posts here, look more like the argument against the Twin Towers, trying to build a myth that muslims were not behind it?
The bomb in the car created the crater you can see in photos taken outside the tallest government building, Høyblokken (H-blokk).
Overview and illustrations
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/slik-skjedde-angrepene.php
Why was there not a security detail on the island or nearby BEFORE the Oslo bomb?
I don't know if this guy killed any politicians, but if they were on the island to give speeches, you would expect a security team, or at least a couple of armed bodyguards.
The former PM had just given a speech there, and the current PM was due to speak there. Who was scheduled to be on the island on the day of the massacre?
If a news chopper could film this monster gunning down kids, why was a police sniper not dispatched in the chopper?
Yeah but the Norway Feds had to be nearby. The Prime
Minister was on his was to that Island that day. That means Norway's version of Sercret Service had to have cleared that Island. In the US they would have been sweeping it 24 hours prior and been there up until the PM's arrival. I can't imagine they weren't already in place nearby with logistics like boats and helicopters "just in case".
Or does the Norway PM not get a regular western style security detachment?
He says he's anti-racist. Anti-racist is nothing more than a codeword for anti-white. The fact he killed White folk proves it.
Anders Breivik is proof that multiculturalism drives people insane.
This is what they were teaching at the youth camp (AUF) two days before:
She expressed concern about the increasingly living pure Islamophobia that will dominate the public immigration debate.
- Previously, the majority agreed with the AUF . Majority community must adapt so that minorities feel welcome. Today it is becoming more acceptable to blame the immigrants and argue that any lack of integration is their own fault.
- After the Berlin Wall's fall was Islamophobia the dominant form of European racism. The more unacceptable form of general racism, was linked to the Muslims. "They can not integrate. They lack manners. They'll just exploit our welfare system. They are potential terrorists."
Arbeidernes Ungdomsfylking (AUF) : Til kamp mot fremmedfrykt
http://auf.no/-/bulletin/show/671591_til-kamp-mot-fremmedfrykt?ref=mst
THEY SAY MAJORITY MUST ADAPT. DISGUSTING!
Anonymous said...
Norwegians and muslims killed
Please se list of victims here
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/ofre/
At one point it was said that 80, eighty, foreigners were attending the AUF camp at Utøya island.
To previous camps Fatah youth have been invited, so you understand that it's been an international socialist thing.
July 29, 2011 11:57 AM
those bastards asking forgiveness in mosques is D I S G U S T I N G !!
Four times more crime in Oslo than New York
The crime rate in Oslo has been growing at an alarming rate and recent statistics show the Norwegian capital had 20 percent more robberies last year than in 2006.AVCATHERINE STEIN
While crime in the rest of Norway has been going down, it has been quite another situation in Oslo, where personal and automobile thefts increased markedly last year.
There were 10,600 crimes reported in public places in 2007, up from 8,000 a year earlier, writes Norwegian daily newspaper Dagbladet.
Oslo had the highest rate per person in Scandinavia in terms of reported crimes, with 90 reported crimes per 1,000.
Copenhagen had 50 crimes reported per 1,000 and Stockholm had 79.
In New York, there were 22 reported crimes per 1,000 inhabitants.
Four times more crime in Oslo than New York - Aftenposten - News in English - Aftenposten.no
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article2299327.ece
APNewsBreak: British Muslim leaders step up security at mosques in wake of Norway attacks | ThunderFeeds
Extra security will be put up at mosques around the U.K. in the wake of the deadly attacks in Norway, British Muslim leaders said Sunday. Mohammed Shafiq, the leader of Ramadhan Foundation, one of Britain’s largest Muslim groups, says mosques are being extra vigilant as it emerges that the suspect blamed for the Norway attacks opposed Muslim immigration to Europe.
I'm sure they're relieved he didn't actually kill Muslim children - just little white children.
[ROLLING EYES]
78% of british muslims want limits on free speech when criticizing (their) religion
the left can use this to tar and feather average folks who are rightfully alarmed over the creeping control alien cultures are exibiting over people in the west but it doesnt change the fact that the cultural parasitism is going on.
to those who would blame this guys actions on people ringing the alarm bell I would say this,
100% of the rapes in oslo were commited by muslim men.
the left has gathered together kindling and dried wood for a fire by denying the reality that some cultures are not either modern or compatible with the native culture and yet allow free virtually unrestricted immigration of those peoples.
with all the provocations such as the statistic I sighted, is anyone surprised that more borderline personalities have not gone over the edge?
so a case can be made that this guy is a byproduct of the left, not a product of the right.
there is nothing wrong with ethnic nationalism.
no more than there is something wrong with the green movement BECAUSE of the unabomber.
thee is nothing wrong with the counter-jihad because of breivik.
zionism is ethnic nationalism as are the movements for a free tibet and self rule for south sudanese and the irish and catalonians and greek etc.
This terrorist is a cookie cutter description of what the left and Islamists have said about their opposition.
His "manifesto" has lifted words from the Unabomber. Something is very off about all of this. This terrorist had help and lots of it.
His Facebook account was pretty new and it was altered. First no mention of religion and politics then suddenly he's an Apostle gone mad. Christian and Conservative appear on his page. I believe right before his account was shut down.
This was packaged too nicely. It benefits the left and the Islamists in Norway. Speaking of which. Norway has had a problem with rape. ALL rapes of late have been committed by...Muslims. One on the steps of Parliament! With all that anger he had towards Muslims yet he was willing to have a "cautious alliance".
I cannot believe one man did all this on his own. Whoever benefits is a strong indication of who was involved, and in this case the left/Islamic alliance benefits. I think this guy was discontented, tried the right in the beginning, then seeing they weren't disposed to violence took matters into his own hands.
Was there no security around at a camp of 700+ people? You'd need to hire some sort of security for a place that big.
He had personally been attacked/robbed no less than 8 times by muslim immigrants.
Norway Terror Attacks Now Being Compared To Oklahoma City Bombing As Evidence Of False Flag Operation Continues To Mount
http://theintelhub.com/2011/07/23/norway-terror-attacks-now-being-compared-to-oklahoma-city-bombing-as-evidence-of-false-flag-operation-continues-to-mount/
Helge Luras, Norwegian Institue of International Affairs says that multiculturalism is responsible for tension and pressure that leads to acts like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCmycMrspH4&feature=player_embedded
Myt building?
"I'm sure they're relieved he didn't actually kill Muslim children - just little white children."
Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg spoke at the Central Jamaat-e Ahl-e Sunnat mosque in Oslo on Friday 29 April 2011, over two muslims who died in the attacks, and was praised by fans among "The New Norwegian We" outside the building afterwards.
http://www.vgtv.no/#!id=42548
Security at Utøya
"Was there no security around at a camp of 700+ people? You'd need to hire some sort of security for a place that big." 1.16 PM
There was one - 1 - policeman at Utøya. This is Norway, remember? Until recently there would be no need for armed police at a Norwegian event, as Norwegian are not a violent people, least at an island in the countryside.
This policeman tried to stop Breivik, but was one of the first to be killed. His name was Trond Berntsen, stepbrother of Mette-Marit, married to Crown Prince Haakon.
Raping Norwegian girls and women
The media have instructions not to mention anything that could identify the rapist as African, Arab, "Asian" or muslim. They do anything to avoid any association with the actual rapist and the ideology.
If considered necessary, they will go so far as to saying the rapist wore blue jeans, "he was wearing white clothes", etc. - What a joke. For fear of "stigmatizing" muslims.
Facebook - Rapes in Oslo
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Voldtekter-i-Oslo/148965198509177
One thousand years of Christianity in Norway
29 July 1030, Battle of Stiklestad
Nidarosdomen, Nidaros Cathedral, filled to the last seat today
http://www.adressa.no/kultur/article1669629.ece
Muslim funeral
After Utøya
"Ali (14) and Lara Rashid (16) lost their sister at the Utøya massacre. Remembering their sister who took multicultural Norway one step further"
FM Støre is even going so far as to suggest that she could have filled Norway's first female PM, Gro Harlem Brundtland's shoes
http://static04.vg.no/drfront/images/2011-07/29/88-6809284c-7a1e1544.jpeg
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10081077
On the side
Gro was often caricatured by a pair of high heeled pumps.
Multicultural march
Initiated by (CAIR-related) Islamsk råd (Islamic Council)
Pakistanis, Africans, Iraqis, Iranians, and then a few Norwegians marched in Oslo on Friday, to show the world the multiculturality in Norway.
http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/29/nyheter/politikk/terror/innenriks/utoya/17495314/
"Yeah but the Norway Feds had to be nearby. The Prime
Minister was on his was to that Island that day. That means Norway's version of Sercret Service had to have cleared that Island. In the US they would have been sweeping it 24 hours prior and been there up until the PM's arrival. I can't imagine they weren't already in place nearby with logistics like boats and helicopters "just in case".
Or does the Norway PM not get a regular western style security detachment?"
This is Norway, a country of 4,5 million Norwegians. 4,9 in total. Oslo is roughly the same size as San Fransisco, bur Norway is totally different from Norway.
The city of Oslo now has 600 000 inhabitants. Increased by 150 000 only in the last couple of decades. Foreigners, for the most part, muslims, are moving in. Norwegians are moving out, especially from East Oslo, due to harassment and insecurity from the muslim communities, carbeques, stoning etc.
Stoning, for instance, several boys throwing big stones at a Norwegian teenager, sending him to hospital in a coma, later explaining this with "the wrong look".
Looking at a muslim, is considered a terrible act which must be corrected by showing the dhimmi his place, that is on a lower level than the muslims.
Carbeques. Recently 14 cars were put on fire at a parking at East Oslo.
At Easter, several strollers at kindergardens, were set afire on the same day. Luckily, at a time when there were no children there.
Norway used to be a country where the police until very recently, only a few years back, did not carry weapons!
In case of emergency they would require weapons at the responsible for the police district, who would then give permission to hand them the weapons required for the situation..!
There simply would be no need for any clearance like you are indicating, because there would just be normal Norwegians around.
Norway has not known any violence like you know from other countries in the world, or from the US. Until recently, that is.
Haakon, the Crown Prince, acted as if he knew nothing of the blast last Friday, explains a journalist who met him at a beach activity outside Oslo 30 minutes afer the blast.
This Utøya island is far out in the countryside, in the fjord, Tyrifjorden. A very quiet and peaceful area. Nobody would expect anything to happen there.
Norway is on the outskirt of Europe, and was protected by the geography. Up north people used to leave their doors open, because nothing would happen. You could trust people.
This has been the secret of Norway's success. Trust. There has been a contract between the people and the state. People worked and paid taxes. The state provided security and order.
Today, more and more muslims are living on the state, on the taxpayers, and it would be a shame to say that The Contract is still kept.
There can no longer be a trusted contract between the Norwegians and the State. The State is cheating on the Norwegians. The Contract has been broken.
1258 PM
"1)If Breivik was anti-Muslim, wouldn't he have brought down a mosque or Islamic center?"
He wanted to attack the socialist government responsible for the situation in Norway, meaning the muslim invation in Norway and Europa
"2)Why would he attack "white" Norwegians? "
Because he thinks the socialists are the responsible ones
"3)How could one person kill/shoot 80 people running for their lives in all directions? "
He was totally cool and determined. His lawyer also says he is behaving well in prison. Cool, polite.
- Did we yet hear of any men at the island?
- Were there any men protecting women out there?
- Anybody acting like a man would, assessing the situation, taking control, risking his life, ordering other men to distract Breivik, while taking his arms?
The policeman did. But he was alone, and got killed.
This is also underlining one of Breivik's points. Those who should have acted as men, have been feminized since early childhood, due to the socialist agenda.
"4)When would he have time to plant the unexploded bombs on the island?"
Haven't seen any information on this in the papers yet. Why not days before the youth arrived at the island?
"5)How did he have the time to schedule a boat to the island, which, I understand, takes 40 minutes?"
The only thing on everybody's mind was the blast in Oslo. He must have had all the time in the world. Dressed as a policeman he didn't raise any suspicion, probably, from other than the real policeman not wearing a police uniform.
"6)How could there be 80 killed on the island, but only 7 (as reported) in the massive blasts in Oslo?"
This was Friday afternoon. Most people are on vacation, out of town. Those who were at the office had left the office, for the most, probably 30 minutes before, at 1500 hours. The blast was at 1526.
"7)Why is there speculation that only one or 2 car bombs could do all that damage in Oslo? It seems obvious that there were more than 2 car/van bombs."
It was a pretty heavy bomb (See photo of crater in previous post)
"The English language facebook page identifying the killer as a “Christian” & “Conservative” was created AFTER his killing spree was over."
Very interesting point.
- Who did it?
- Why?
- Why at this point in time?
Crime in Oslo
Just imagine how many crimes are not reported due to threats to the victims after the crime.
Also, the police don't have the capacity to handle all reported crimes.
There was a list in VG (vg.no) recently showing a list of what crimes will routinely not be investigated due to lack of capasity.
For instance, people who have been robbed, and even holding the robber, waiting for the police to arrive, must resign just because the police will not show up.
Instead of reporting a crime, people will not take the time and effort only to be told later that time will not be spent on investigating, so they resign.
Traktor-Harald
Only a few days back, up far North, at the other end of Norway, Harald(66) noticed a robber on his property, about to leave in his Mercedes, so he took action.
He quickly moved his tractor, blocking the Mercedes, lifting the front part of the car from the ground. The robber could go no where until the police 45 minutes later arrived. This happened on Harald's own property.
He was a hero to every Norwegian who heard about this story, so now he's called Traktor-Harald.
Only, next day, and to no surprise, the police announced they would investigate into the incident, because Harald was in his right to take action on his own property the way he did.
This happened in the middle of the night, even though it doesn't look like this on the video. It happened in Alta, as far North as you can get, and beyond, over towards Russia, so they have the midnight sun lighting up the nights this time of the year.
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10088846
Cutting Defense, and police
The socialist government has been cutting down on Defense, and on police, so in a way they prepared the ground for Breivik.
Edit
Norway is totally different from the US
This is Norway, a country of 4,5 million Norwegians. 4,9 in total. Oslo is roughly the same size as San Fransisco, but Norway is totally different from the US.
where was the car?
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/23/article-2017938-0D1F76AC00000578-202_634x430.jpg
http://static.euronews.net/images_news/W500px_2207-oslo-explosion.jpg
WHERE WAS THE CAR?
Turns out Norway isn't the pacific idyllic left-wing paradise we've read about in the media.
The following is a partial list of church arsons:
1992:
May 23: burning of Storetveit Church in Bergen[23]
Jun 6: burning of Fantoft stave church in Bergen[24] – Varg Vikernes is strongly suspected as the culprit, but was not convicted.[24]
Aug 1: burning of Revheim Church in Stavanger[24]
Aug 21: burning of Holmenkollen Chapel in Oslo[23] – Varg Vikernes and Faust were convicted for this.
Sep 1: burning of Ormøya Church in Oslo[23]
Sep 13: burning of Skjold Church in Vindafjord[23] – Varg Vikernes and Samoth were convicted for this.
Oct 3: burning of Hauketo Church in Oslo[23]
Dec 24: burning of Åsane Church in Bergen[1] – Varg Vikernes and Jørn Inge Tunsberg were convicted for this.[1]
Dec 25: burning of a Methodist church in Sarpsborg[1] – a firefighter was killed while fighting this fire.[1]
1993:
Feb 7: burning of Lundby New Church in Gothenburg, Sweden[25]
1994:
Mar 13: burning of a church in Sund[26]
Mar 27: burning of Seegård Church in Snertingdal[26]
May 16: attempted burning of Gol stave church in Buskerud[26]
May 17: attempted burning of Åmodt Chapel in Buskerud[26]
Jun 4: burning of Frogn Church in Drøbak[26]
Jun 19: attempted burning of Heni Church in Gjerdrum[26]
Jul 7: burning of a church in Jeløy[26]
Jul 21: attempted burning of Odda's Church[26]
Aug 13: attempted burning of Loop Chapel in Meldal[26]
Dec 10: attempted burning of Åkra Church[26]
Dec 22: attempted burning of Askim Church[26]
Dec 26: attempted burning of Klemestrud Church[26]
1995:
May 13: burning of Lord Church in Telemark[27]
May 25: burning of Såner Church in Vestby[27]
Jun 14: burning of Moe Church in Sandefjord[27]
Jul 21: attempted burning of a church college in Eidanger[27]
Sep 3: attempted burning of Vågsbygd church college in Oddernes[27]
Nov 3: burning of Innset Church in Rennebu[27] (source: Wiki)
Can you imagine the media outcry if this had been a mosque instead of over two dozen Christian churches?
http://thewaytheballbounces.blogspot.com/2011/07/norway-church-burnings.html
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