Sunday, September 18, 2011

71 Billion Euros - The Cost of Immigration

In my recent article on Marine Le Pen's speech in Nice last week, I expressed my surprise at her claim that the annual cost of immigration in France has reached 70 billion euros. It sounded impossibly high. But she based her statement on the work of economist Gérard Pince, who has in the past used his mathematical and actuarial skills to estimate realistically the number of immigrants in France.

Pince spoke with Pierre Cassen of Riposte Laïque, and explained briefly his statistical methods and his opinion on the underlying motives for the massive immigration that is strangling France both culturally and economically. Here are excerpts from that interview, beginning with his political preferences:

- I'm sorry that ideological differences on the sex of angels is dividing the forces of the resistance. For my part, I am sticking to one simple rule. I support without reservation all those who fight against immigration and the Islamization of our country. The fight against this invasion must take precedence over all other considerations. I am trying to convince others of this conviction but there is still much to do. Reciprocally, I feel that the resistance movements ought to concentrate on their main mission and avoid those topics that are divisive, such as the future of Europe or the euro!

- You have just published a report on the cost of Third World immigration for 2009. You say it amounted to 71 billion euros. Why is this study more reliable than others that explain how this immigration benefits France, and still others, like Jean-Paul Gourevitch, who don't arrive at the same figures you do?

- The answer can be found in the report. The studies that claim that immigration enriches us are part of a scandalous fraud, especially when they come out of the universities. I know Jean-Paul Gourevitch's work. He deals with immigration in general (including European immigrants) and he does not take into account direct descendants. Moreover, his approach is different. I was the first to determine, in 2004, the cost of Third World immigration. This is not about ethnic statistics because my method is based on the spatial origins of migrants and their descendants. As far as I know, geography is not yet forbidden! The figures are worse than in 2004 because of the crisis that has reduced revenues while the expenditures have stayed the same or increased. Furthermore, between 2004 and 2009, the number of immigrants and descendants grew from the double effect of new arrivals and births. In conclusion, I regard my method as the correct one.

- In your opinion, in this time of crisis and massive unemployment, why does the government continue to bring in new immigrants? Do you agree with Bat Ye'Or's theory of Eurabia and secret agreements, or with André Gérin, who accuses the government of responding to the demands of employers in order to lower the cost of labor?

- Clearly, I share the opinion of André Gérin. Management pleads for a massive immigration (check the comments made by MEDEF) and lets the taxpayer foot the bill. For many executives, a well-run business must reduce expenses with the help of immigrants and move out of the country as much as possible. Middle management has no future and a native Frenchman must belong to the elite in order to keep his job. At this rate, we will soon have salaries that are as low as those of under-developed countries. Furthermore, this is the goal of a certain type of globalization. For their part, the unions and the Left seek freedom of movement for workers in the name of the sacrosanct "fight against racism". Thus they encourage a lowering of salaries and unemployment. If they did not exist, the big multinational countries would have to invent them in order to go on stuffing themselves on profits!

Note: "MEDEF" is the largest union of employers in France. The letters stand for "Movement of French Enterprises".

Pince, like Marine Le Pen, is taking the economic point of view in the cultural war that is being waged on French soil. For them, it is an economic imperative to stop immigration, because it lowers the salaries of the French and often deprives them of work and benefits to which they are entitled. Pince even rejects Bat Ye'or's position on Eurabia, and instead follows André Gérin, a Communist. Theoretically, the entire French Left should side with André Gérin, but instead they have chosen to be globalists and multiculturalists, thus putting themselves in the strange position of advocating lower salaries for their fellow Frenchmen. Gérin, at least, has some nationalist loyalties.

Nonetheless, read on, and you will see that he is aware of the deeper issue of cultural survival.

- How do you see the future of your country?

- I don't see it. The French have been lobotomized. The oligarchy speaks to them as if they are terminally ill. At bottom, our government is a hospice that administers palliative care. It is attempting to accompany painlessly the disappearance of one population and its replacement by another. The rich will go off to the islands. As for the poor, they will be placed in special homes. And then, euthanasia was not made just for dogs.

So Pince is aware, after all, that the French population is in danger of extinction. And that the decades-old policies on immigration and Islamization may have motives that are not purely economic.

I have not had time to study his report, but those who know French can read it at his website.

Below, a wonderful old print from the collection of Maggie Land Blanck, depicting a different kind of immigration - to America, where they would be carefully screened and tested for disease before being admitted. Moreover, this immigration resulted not in widespread poverty and degradation but in the lightening-fast growth of a new civilization. The losers, in this case, were the Native Americans, who succumbed to European diseases and who were greatly overpowered and outnumbered in the battles they fought to save their cultures, though they often fought fiercely and bravely. We have always been taught to feel guilty for what we did to the Indians, but the sheer inevitability of the discovery of the land, the urge to start afresh, the optimism that must have sent millions, including my family, to our shores, and the dazzling successes of the new nation are too impressive for guilt. The foundations of America were Anglo-Saxon, even if the inhabitants were diverse. It was a diversity in tune with Anglo-Saxon customs and mores and perfectly willing to obey the Anglo-Saxon Constitution.


See the whole collection of beautiful prints at Maggie Blanck.

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13 Comments:

At September 18, 2011 10:34 AM, Blogger DP111 said...

70bn Euros sounds a lot, but several years ago I did a very simple calculation, and the figure was in the same ball park

Consider 5m unemployed immigrants. For housing, education, welfare, NHS, crime and ancillary effects, a conservative figure of £10,000. This works out to £50bn for nation.

The figure does not include the real figure in taxes that has to be raised- harm to the economy due to higher taxation, civil service costs to employ civil servants, and the administration costs. It does not include the cost and damage to society because of terrorist activity.

 
At September 18, 2011 5:03 PM, Blogger John Sobieski said...

You can be sure the MSM and the govt. will denounce this estimate. Go back to sleep! Don't worry! Don't you find it amazing that ALL of the western govts are conspiring to replace the indegenous population with the other? I do and it makes me disgusted and angry.

 
At September 18, 2011 6:38 PM, Anonymous Armor said...

Riposte Laïque: "why does the government continue to bring in new immigrants? Do you agree:
(1) with Bat Ye'Or's theory of Eurabia and secret agreements, or
(2) with André Gérin, who accuses the government of responding to the demands of employers in order to lower the cost of labor?"


The immigration policiy is not imposed by Arab immigrants themselves, but by Western governments, with the support of the media. And Western governments and media are both dominated by Jewish pro-immigration activists.

Employers don't need immigrants. They are losing money because of immigration. It seems that most immigrants now come from Africa. They can only do unqualified work. It is much cheaper for employers to invest into more automation.

No matter how Gérard Pince got his 70 billion figure, he certainly didn't take into account the fact that Africans living in Europe will never make any invention and will never run innovative businesses. Anyway, how can you estimate the cost to White people of ten million of their children never being born, so as to make room for the third-world?

--
In his well-rehearsed interview last night on French TV, DSK was asked at the end what he planned to do with his time, now that he is no longer running for president.

He replied that he was interested in the debt problem, the financial system, technological alliances with new industrial countries... He was also interested "in the problem of demographics, because we are getting older, and it brings the problem of immigration, which must not be dodged –but we won't talk about it tonight. But we need immigration, organized in a welcoming way, or else, our countries will get too old."

His words, in French: "Et aussi aux problèmes de démographie, parce que nous vieillissons, et ça pose le problème inévitable de l'immigration, qu'il ne faut pas esquiver –on ne va pas en parler ce soir. Mais il faut de l'immigration organisée et accueillante, sinon nos pays deviendront trop vieux. Donc, tous ces sujets sont des sujets qui me passionnent."

 
At September 19, 2011 9:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Extinction

The whole process is speeding up since the indigenous population can't afford to have children, since they pay taxes to provide for the immigrants.

Those who have children, in areas with heavy islamic populations move due to infavorable conditions for raising children, like native language not being spoken by the islamic children, or natives being bullied

And when families move from such areas, MSM and PC elite make sure to let them know that they ought to feel "racist" for leaving islamic areas, and not integrating into them!

The situation in Europe is totally absurd!

The crisis is definitely man-made. The more you think about it, the more it appears that the crisis consists of taxing indigenous Europeans to support the umma, and on the long term, extinction of European culture, which is to "integrate" into the islamic.

Times like these make you keep in mind the proverb

"Memento Mori"

Then there is also the play with words, los moros, maurus.. which could emphasize the meaning of

Memento Mori!

 
At September 19, 2011 9:57 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bubble risk?

High pressure on property in Oslo
- Norwegians leaving Oslo

- Who are the individuals requiring housing?
- Who is paying for their housing?

Muslim immigrants do get housing paid by taxpayers. Some of these apartments are above the limits that natives can afford, so how else could Somalis and the likes, afford these apartments?

The government's policy is to open up highly priced residential areas for newcomers, nybyggare ("settlers") as they call them in Sweden, ie muslim immigrants.

It all makes natives cramp into smaller areas to flee the so-called multiculture, which makes prices summit in those areas of the city.

Interesting in this respect, also, is how much of the housing is sharia financed? Norwegian banks are building up competence in the field. Do they communicate these figures in their annual reports? How? Openly, or disguised?


Why is Bloomberg presenting this story on Norway today?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-18/norway-house-bubble-risk-raises-need-for-tougher-rules-fsa-says.html

"To contact the editor responsible for this story: Tasneem Brogger at tbrogger@bloomberg.net"

 
At September 19, 2011 12:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"in the problem of demographics, because we are getting older, and it brings the problem of immigration, which must not be dodged –but we won't talk about it tonight. But we need immigration, organized in a welcoming way, or else, our countries will get too old."



dsk wants turkey in the european union




Turkey to freeze EU ties if Cyprus gets EU presidency - World news ...1 day ago ... EU-candidate Turkey will freeze relations with the European Union if Cyprus is
given the EU presidency in 2012, Turkish Deputy Prime Minister ...
www.msnbc.msn.com/.../turkey-freeze-eu-ties-if-cyprus-gets-eu-presidency/


Turkey's PM Warns Against Cyprus EU Presidency | Europe | English21 Jul 2011 ... Turkey's Prime minister, Tayyip Erdogan, warned on Wednesday that his
country's relations with the European Union 'will be completely frozen' ...
www.voanews.com/.../Turkeys-PM-Warns-Against-Cyprus-EU-Presidency- 125968143.html


TURKEY SHOULD GET OUT OF CYPRUS!!!!!!!!!

 
At September 19, 2011 12:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://islamversuseurope.blogspot.com/2011/09/muslims-defy-french-ban-on-street.html

 
At September 19, 2011 2:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

DSK by Sunday's Claire Chazal interview, gives the strong impression that he still has a lot of power, and that he is in a position - informal, non-specific - where he can influence the European economy as such

He speaks of - as he already took the decision - that the French will have to deal with paying for "the Greek debt". "Just face it. And go on. Prepare yourselves for handing out to the Greek what is required"

Makes you wonder who are in charge "in the European democracies".

- How ironic. 'Democracy', from ancient Greece. Today, "Democracy" is making and end to Europe and the European countries as we knew them

DSK just used this opportunity to appear on TV to consolidate his power, again, informal power

"Les Guignols" tonight, were clearly hinting at Claire Chazal's ties to the couple, by Anne Sinclair being a journalist friend from way back, that she was looking forward to visiting them at their riyadh in Marrakesh, and a dinner before the Sunday interview.

 
At September 19, 2011 5:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

France lost the match against Spain

Curiously the only member of the French basketball team who looks particularly French, is Spanish

http://www.fdesouche.com/241485-sport-lequipe-despagne-bat-la-france-a-leuro-de-basket

 
At September 19, 2011 6:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greek debt - Europe to pay?

Francois Fillon answers to DSK's idea of making Europeans pay Greek's debt

- Are they really aware of what they are proposing?!

 
At September 19, 2011 8:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The streets of Paris
- Who's in control?
- The police, or ...muslims?

Algerians chasing policemen in Paris

http://rutube.ru/tracks/4829527.html?v=45d61f387678e1d9ef46fd0f8a8d5e9e&autoStart=true&bmstart=1000

 
At September 19, 2011 9:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Zürich riots
- Youths...

80 arrested over the weekend

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/riot-tourists-young-swiss-hooligans-terrorize-city-of-zurich/

http://www.tdg.ch/actu/suisse/chaoten-sement-terreur-zurich-2011-09-18

 
At September 20, 2011 2:07 PM, Blogger Jewel said...

In the words of Pogo, "We have met the enemy, and he is us."

 

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