Tuesday, January 17, 2012

Europe's Fate

According to Islamisation, on January 6, 2012, Egyptian imam Ali Abu Al-Hasan delivered a sermon on Al-Hekma television. Here is one passage:

"…with Muslim emigration into Europe and the unwillingness of Europeans to marry and have children… One hundred persons will be succeeded by only eighty, and ten years later, these eighty will be replaced by sixty, and these sixty will later be replaced by forty, and these forty will be a mere ten one decade later, and twenty years later, not one of them will remain!

Europe has become aware of this. In time, Europe will become a single Islamic State, and will know only that: 'There is no other god but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger.'

That's the way it is, whether they like it or not. It is Allah's decision. Islam is arriving!"

With 470,000 visas issued annually by the Interior Ministry (official figures for 2008) to nationals of Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, and Turkey, we can't help but believe that the Sarkozy government agrees with Islamic imperialism.

Click here for the video of the above, from MEMRI, with English subtitles. And see if you don't agree that the voice of the imam sounds very much like that of Hitler.

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At January 17, 2012 8:14 AM, Blogger DP111 said...

Even if all Islamic immigration is stopped, the internal demographics ensure that Muslims will be a majority sometime in the near future.

The only way out is a revolution in thinking, away from the suicidal liberalism that allows this ongoing catastrophe.

At January 17, 2012 10:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jaques Attali thinks there are not enough immigrants in Europe

He would like to see another 300 000 a year

At January 17, 2012 4:37 PM, Anonymous dauphin said...

The only long-term solution is mostly social, not political. If one passes all sorts of laws prioritizing French people and French culture, even ending immigration, (all good in the short-term) eventually these laws will be reversed by a new political majority of immigrants in a few decades. The Imam sees this clearly.

The most important socio-political action is simply for ethnic French (and other Europeans)to have many more children. The government can help by strengthening marriage and the family, and discouraging and ending abortion. Gilles Grondin of Québec (a pro-life advocate) cited the figures of 35-40 thousand abortions a year in Québec alone. To replace those, they bring in about the same number of immigrants. So one can easily see the impact on changing demographics.

In France, Frigide Barjot has suggested a Ministry of Family and of Life, not a bad idea. Unfortunately, some feminists (and men as well) who are unhappy with the growing presence of Islam, want to have their cake and eat it too. No committment, no marriage, no kids, easy divorce, etc. They think if they restrain Islam politically, that will make their lifestyle safe, but it is that lifestyle which has put the survival of France and Europe in such danger.

At January 18, 2012 4:25 PM, Blogger DP111 said...

For French women in general to keep up with the fertility rate of Muslim women, they will have to have 5 children. This is not likely, as most French women also have careers. Even if they did, all that will happen is that France will soon be an overcrowded nation, and then Bangladesh.

It is not possible to win a birth rate war with Muslims. The only avenue is a fundamental is to re-think of who and what we are, and why we wish to be so. If the French decide to be French in language and culture, then the policy of repatriation will not just become legally possible but morally acceptable.

At January 18, 2012 5:16 PM, Blogger tiberge said...

@ DP111,

I agree that the Muslims have to be repatriated. Stopping immigration is only the first step. There are too many already in France to ignore. First, all criminals must be deported. Then all illegals. Then mosque-building has to cease and all funds from Algeria, etc... to build mosques must be cut off. No privileges in schools or swimming pools, NO HALAL. If they don't leave on their own at that point, forceful repatriation may become necessary. None of this had to happen. The Western world has had the worst leaders imaginable for several decades, and the United States, as a beacon of liberty and free speech failed completely. So we're in a cloaca of our own making.

So far Marine Le Pen has not gone into the nitty-gritty details of Muslim expulsion. She has only spoken of stopping immigration and deporting illegals back to countries who have to be made responsible for receiving them. The idea of actually deporting Muslims who have French citizenship is too explosive for now. But she will have to face it if she becomes president. And if Sarko or Hollande become president, it's curtains, as far as I can tell.

At January 18, 2012 5:23 PM, Blogger tiberge said...

@ dauphin,

I agree too with your comment, especially the idea that the liberal (i.e. promiscuous, beholden-to-nobody) life-style of Western women, including (unfortunately) French women, is one of the primary reasons for the presence of Islam in the first place. This means that besides ridding our territories of Islam, we have to restore sanity, morality and Western-based values to our own systems.

But our "systems" seem to have broken down permanently. The big unanswered question is whether or not they can be repaired. If not, as I said in the comment above, as anybody would say, it is over.

Something in all of us keeps saying "this can't be". We just don't know yet what will happen. I can say without doubt that should Marine win, I will pray for her safety every day.

At January 18, 2012 7:02 PM, Anonymous dauphin said...

@ DP111

French people are still a majority in France by at least 3 to 1, so I question if French women need to have 5 children to catch up to extra-European immigrants. One would have to have real numbers (not easily available) in order to do the true math. Certainly, there can be financial incentives awarded (as was tried in Toulon I think or some other city before Paris put a stop to it) for French people to have kids. After the hetacombe of WWI, it was considered a patriotic duty, and an award was given to one smiling, proud couple who had 17 children! (yes I know, hard to imagine today) There are other countries than Bangladesh with high population density, such as Japan, so even if the population increased, it needn't make France a 3rd world country. And if it will save our culture, we can make a little more room.

Re-patriation of legal immigrants just doesn't sound possible, unless we are talking of a scenario of civil war 30 or 40 years from now. The only way people can fight back today, other than voting for Marine, is to have as many kids as they can afford, and get rid of incentives for immigrants to have children in France, get rid of droit de sol (soil birthright), etc. But you are right that the willingness of French women (and men) has to be there first. It is hard to get away from the egoist mindset that we all have developped somewhat since the last 50 years, and to restore the value of motherhood, fatherhood, and family. I have one formerly feminist cousin who said she now realizes the dead end to which feminists lead so many women. I think more are waking up somewhat, as they do not find the satisfaction they were hoping for in career.

@ tiberge

"we have to restore sanity, morality and Western-based values to our own systems."

Absolutely, you are right. I do see some evidence that an increasing number of young people see the value-less society they are in, and want something better, a return to traditional values, so I think there is some reason to hope.

At January 18, 2012 8:02 PM, Blogger tiberge said...

@ dauphin,

By mentioning Japan, you have raised a very interesting point. It's not the number of people in a country, it's the quality of the people in a country. But this is precisely the problem. Your immigrants are not Italians, Canadians or Norwegians. They are (at least for now) non-assimilable. If the ones who are legal are allowed to stay they will have to pledge, in some way, to renounce sharia and jihad. They will have to pay for their own mosques and send their kids to schools where they will learn that colonialism was not all bad and where the school cafeteria serves pork. They will have to become Frenchmen, or else live in carefully policed areas that are under French jurisdiction. In other words, they either will have to become French authentically OR they will have to become citizens under a special statute whereby France is their governor - just as in colonial times.

This is why I feel that at some point the issue of the conduct and influence of French Muslims who are citizens will have to be addressed. You would not have this problem with European ethnicities, including people like Eva Joly and Mathieu Madénian, who are abusing the privileges offered them by France. They are taking advantage of the current value system, which is not the traditional French value system, but a "liberal" value system probably imported from the United States. Even if we blame the French Revolution or François Mitterand, we cannot ignore the fact that the United States has set a very bad example. I wish the French would stop imitating our errors.

Lastly, you have raised indirectly the problem of ethnicities in any Western country. We have always had "minority groups", and in America we have had a turbulent history with the Indians and the blacks. This should have taught us a lesson, but instead we have allowed in millions of Mexicans (often of mixed Indian blood) who are not inclined to be patriots, to put it mildly, even if some of them do shape up very well. There has to be a DOMINANT culture, which has to be European (whether in Europe itself, or America, or Canada or Australia). Any minority has to agree to be subordinate to the dominant culture.

How can the French people get rid of the incentives for immigrants to have children unless Marine Le Pen or someone like her does not win the presidency and make a massive overhaul of the system, setting the country back on the track that is right for France?

There does seem to be an awakening. Now they say Marine has 32% of the "intentions de vote". If only these people really do get out and vote instead of staying home or getting cold feet and voting for Sarkhollande.

At January 18, 2012 9:50 PM, Anonymous dauphin said...

@ tiberge

Right, Marine would have to be elected for those types of policies to even be attempted. It's all up to the French people, who will decide the future of France and of their children and grandchildren. I hope more wake up and realize what is at stake.

When you mention Indians, by which you mean Native Americans, I feel ethnic French are in the same position, so do sympathize with them.

As to becoming "authentically French", for me this requires being French; the best immigrants can do is to assimilate.

As to the "intentions de vote" for Marine being around 30%, I heard this too, but now she is polling at 18% in the 1st round (if one can trust polls), unless I am comparing apples and oranges.

At January 19, 2012 3:27 AM, Blogger tiberge said...

@ dauphin,

Sorry. We still say "Indians" but "Native Americans" is the preferred term. You are comparing the French to the Native Americans? But the French are in a better position to defend themselves. You yourself said that the French still outnumber the invaders 3 to 1. The French are intelligent, educated, armed and have a long history of defending their nation. The Native Americans were spread out all over, spoke completely different languages, were uninformed about Europe, and did not have complex immune systems to ward off the new diseases they fell victim to. The Native Americans were doomed from the first because their cultures were too primitive, despite the fine things they crafted and their interesting religious beliefs. The Europeans were too strong for them and too highly developed. The French are much more highly developed than their invaders. The question we cannot answer is WHY? Why would such a civilized and beautiful culture not do everything to defend itself? Why this passive aceptance of defeat? And of course the same holds true for the other Western countries and the United States. We cannot really blame the Native Americans for losing the war against the Europeans. They fought as valiantly as they could, and then they were absorbed into the mainstream, except for those who remained on reservations. If the French lose their struggle against Islam, it will be because they didn't try, or they tried too late.

At January 19, 2012 5:55 AM, Blogger DP111 said...

dauphin: French people are still a majority in France by at least 3 to 1, so I question if French women need to have 5 children to catch up to extra-European immigrants. One would have to have real numbers (not easily available) in order to do the true math.

I agree with you, that in absolute numbers, French women do need to have 5 children yet. However, the ratio of French/Muslim children will fall and is falling, regardless. If this problem is not addressed soon, then in the fullness of time, French women will will have to have 5 children just to stop Muslims becoming a majority.

Prevention is better then cure, as they say.

At January 19, 2012 6:02 AM, Blogger DP111 said...

The profound problem of Muslim immigration

The subversion against our societies is executed by relatively few immigrants. Most immigrants from Islamic countries do not come to the West in order to transform free Western countries into semblances of the autocracies or theocracies they have fled from. They seek better living conditions, employment, a better future – but they do so without the intention to change their religion, and this is where things get complicated.

Retaining faith in Islam and Islamic scholars will lead the immigrants to tacitly support the subversive aims of Islamists who have also come to the West, initially as a relatively small fraction of millions of Islamic immigrants. These Islamic leaders and scholars use the Islamic teachings to destroy confidence in Western democracies, and they are astonishingly effective in achieving that aim.

Explaining how this seemingly irrational development can take place requires some history. This first and foremost means the life and conduct of Muhammad, the perfect example for the pious Muslim even today. The authority of Muhammad is absolute in Islam, be it in form of Quranic commands or the examples of conduct recorded in hadith collections, known in Islam as the 'Sunna'. Hijra, immigration, was a key element in Muhammads takeover of Yathrib, today known as Medina.

Unfortunately, the concept of Hijra is not limited in time or space to 7th century Arabia. The command as given is absolute, and remains an obligation on Muslims. One of many hadith quotes Muhammad for this:
I charge you with five of what Allah has charged me with: to assemble, to listen, to obey, to immigrate and to wage Jihad for the sake of Allah.

Thus, immigration is step four out of a five step plan. Sam Solomon elaborates:
So Hijra or migration is binding on all Muslims for numerous reasons; the most important being that migration is preparatory to jihad with an aim and objective of securing victory for Islam and Muslims either in another country or generally as a community.


Immigration is Jihad, and to defeat we have to reverse immigratiuon - simple as that. Though simple, it requires a complte revolution in the way we see ourselves, our culture, and whether it is worth preserving for future generations.

I think it is. I just do not wish to see the destruction of all the art, music and architecture of Europe. I would rather give Europe away to the Chinese, who I'm sure will drive out the Mohameddans, and preserve Western civilisation.

At January 19, 2012 9:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The French are much more highly developed than their invaders." The civilisation we have inherited is wonderfully developed - but then we decided to deconstruct it and discard the pieces. Really we are not as developed as we imagine. If we were we would recognise our wonderful inheritance. It is time for us to grow up and fight for what we have - or lose it. Imagining we are superior is just another trap we have constructed for ourselves.If we were as developed as we think we are we would take note of how much danger we are in - and we would take steps to defend ourselves. Instead we look the other way and eat more junk food. We have no self awareness or awareness of anything else, well the only thing that matters to us is satisfying our myriad desires - thats akind of self awareness but doesnt take us very far. Most people are aware the Western countries are changing and they dont much like it - so they look the other way. That is what political correctness has done to us. The biggest crime these days is to be called a racist. Like this we are paralysed, that is how the ruling elites want us to be. We must throw off the socialist indoctrination if we are to regain our selves - and our countries.

At January 19, 2012 1:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The slution is so simple as to challenge any bizarre forms if imagination. No1) Deportation; No2) Immigration into France " VERBOTTEN". What more simplistic formula than that. What is needed is political will, guts, and an unwavering determination. The Imama speaks well, he says what he sees; but the European-French mass man is dormant, sleeping, unaware of the dark clouds engulfing his people and the fierce storm about to unleash. There is and it must take place a mental paradigamtic shift. We are on a suicidal path; to break free is easy and simple if only there was the will and.... some sturdy and brave Gallic patriots and nationalists. According to the Imamas mathematics the algebraic conclusion is perfect; it is up to the threatened species to make a fight for its survival.

At January 19, 2012 2:27 PM, Anonymous dauphin said...

@ DP111

You are right, we will pass a point of no return; time is of the essence.

@ tiberge

Well, this is a whole discussion, why France and Europe accept the current situation and their own demise, when they do not have to. I think Hitler created an association of national identity with hatred, ignorance, violence and catastrophic war that has left a deep mark on European memory and thinking, and of course this has been exploited by the multi-culturalist elites for their own purposes. As an "anonymous" correctly pointed out, the greatest crime today is to be considered "racist". Marine is doing her best to undo this association, but it's a struggle. I too hope with all my heart and soul that it will not be too late.

At January 19, 2012 5:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


We are basing our assumptions on what we know, but what about those elements we cannot see clearly, yet?

What if the Chinese started to have 2-5 children, instead of that one they were allowed to have, for so long?

What if more Chinese moved to France weighing in on the French side?

What if more Chinese turned to Christianity?

UK is seeing a possibility that Barnsley could become a UK Lourdes to the already 70 million Chinese Christians

Monday saw a financial agreement between Hongkong and London, setting up London as a center for Chinese yuan.

- How could this influence on Europe in general, culturally and on islam's presence in Europe?

- A boost to City trade?

What if something happened financially/politically that opened up for more presence of the booming Brasil and India in France?

At January 19, 2012 6:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

" Really we are not as developed as we imagine. If we were we would recognise our wonderful inheritance. "

- Exactly.

This the people knows. But the islamic side has worked very hard, and succeeded in this, to talk about national identity.

Even the president, Sarko, was intent on discussing the French identity, but as long as the islamic side put so much effort into not allowing this to happen, there was no debate about the French identity.

At January 19, 2012 6:10 PM, Blogger DP111 said...

dauphin: You are right, we will pass a point of no return; time is of the essence.

There is not much time left. In Brussels, almost 50% of children are Muslims.

As a bit of fun I threw in, that it would be better to let China/Japan/Korea take over Europe, then see the destruction of civilisation by the a culture which is the destroyer of civilisations.

East Asians wont be dhimmis for a start. They are hardworking, and adore Western culture so much, that some of the best Classical musicians are Chinese, Korean or Japanese. They would also institute 2 children per female, compulsory, or even go the Singapore way. That will put paid to the Islamic threat, and most if not all Muslims will leave.

Such is the severity of the Islamic threat, that even this joke of an idea seems attractive.

At January 22, 2012 12:44 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is not only the islamic threat, it is the threat of combine afro-asia that is making Europe tremble.Immigration-invasin is unidirectional. Africans head to europe, not Asia, Asians head for Europe , not Africa. Africa for African, Asia for Asians and europe for all. We are in the midst of a historical evolutionary process, regressive and backward at that. Presents form or governments, institutions, the very same pillars of the nation which brought us to this sorry cul-de sac are incapable of getting us out of the morass of degradation and bio-dissolution. The question remains whether Europe and its constituent peoples can retain , preserve, and solidify their bio roots and safeguard the European living space for Europeans alone ? The nation state is fast dissappearing, being replaced by a panmixia of international cosmopolitanism made up by a grand cassoulet of population mixes from the four corners of the planet. On this road we are not on the road to Damascus, but on the road into becoming another internationally governed and managed periphery, where the constant replacement of our native peoples is an ongoing feature. Deracination, depopulation, immigration, rampant miscenegeation ( which is the quasi official policy of Messieru Sarkozy and the political establishment)social dystopia, these are the ingredients which make up our contemporary essentials.

At January 24, 2012 10:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the best way to preserve the white race is to protect white territory.

At February 19, 2012 2:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Britain's male mum speaks

- Family....

"A man thought to be Britain's first 'male mother' has told of his wish to live his life as a normal father.
The man, who was born a woman, gave birth to a healthy baby girl he calls his 'little angel' in March 2011 after ending the hormone treatment that had deactivated his womb.

He had been living as a man for five years and had legally changed his name and gender before deciding to attempt to conceive with his male partner, from whom he is now separated"


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