Monday, January 16, 2012

A Question of Neutrality

In his newsletter #154, available through subscription, Yves Daoudal relates the events at a high school in Saint-Dié, department of the Vosges, in Lorraine, eastern France. It concerns a cancellation by the Guillaume Budé Association, a scholastic society devoted to ancient history and languages, of a conference on the Armenian genocide. The Association issued this communiqué:

"We must cancel the January 20 conference by Madame Paule Gehay on the Armenian genocide. The principal has, in fact, determined that the current situation was not favorable for us to be able to discuss calmly this topic, and that the school must remain neutral. The next conference has been scheduled for Friday March 2 at 5:30 p.m.: 'Lenin, revolutionary or putschist?' by Jean-Jacques Marie, historian, and author of a biography of Lenin."

Yves Daoudal comments:

I fail to see how speaking about the Armenian genocide violates the neutrality of the school. It is an historic event, even officially recognized by the French Republic. To speak in a school of the Republic about an event recognized by the Republic (and the denial of which will soon be a punishable offense…) cannot contravene the republican neutrality of the school…

If I understand correctly, the mention of the Armenian genocide leads one to designate the guilty and the victims, and that the guilty are Muslims and the victims are Christians. And that IS contrary to "neutrality". It is even contrary to laïcité…

On the other hand, there is no problem with the next conference. The one by Jean-Jacques Marie on Lenin.

Jean-Jacques Marie has been a Trotskyist militant for… 50 years. He was a member of the OCI (Internationalist Communist Organization) (…) He stayed on when the OCI became the Internationalist Communist Party (PCI) in 1981. And since 1992, he has been in the Workers' Party (which joined the PCI).

But the principal of the high school in Saint-Dié felt that this is an example of neutrality.

At Le Salon Beige, a Catholic website, there are several comments about this story.

- I know Saint-Dié and I know that there is a very large Turkish community there. Were there local pressures?

- The principal must be afraid that the parents of the Turkish community burn the school down. Courage is not in good supply nowadays… It is also true that he has nothing to fear from the Armenian community whose mores are less barbaric due to the enrichment of Christian civilization. He has also taught us his conception of neutrality: snuff out the truth (and discussions) out of fear of violence.

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At January 16, 2012 3:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


Dawa is, in my opinion, extremely important to pay attention to

Spreading islam by promoting footballers, and showbiz people

This is in some way OT, and at the same time not, as islam is intervening everywhere.

A footballer in France, Hatem Ben Arfa, talks about how he was lured into sufism, by an African catholic growing up in France, converted to islam, and very much promoted in French media, Abd el Malik.

I think this is an excellent example of how it works

Ben Arfa says he was close to getting lost to the sect when his pride stopped him from kissing the feet of the leader.

At January 16, 2012 11:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rapper Abd el Malik has decided to sue Newcastle footballer Hatem Ben Arfa based on Arfa's accusations of having been indoctrinated by Malik

At January 18, 2012 12:06 AM, Blogger Arius said...

So discussing the Armenian genocide is now islamophobia?

At January 18, 2012 1:41 AM, Blogger tiberge said...

@ Arius,

That's right. It's interesting to watch how the French leaders are acting with regard to Turkey. On the one hand, Sarkozy keeps insisting he does not want Turkey in the EU, but he does nothing to stop or prevent State institutions from showing deference to Turkey and indifference toward Armenians in a situation such as this. Sarkozy will go down in history as the man who opposed Turkey, and yet he is the man who abetted Turkey.

At January 19, 2012 1:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Personally I think Sarkozy is a crypto islamist. It is all puff and smoke and speaks with a forked tongue. I have zero faith in the man, his declarations, his intentions, his ideas, concealed or otherwise contrived. Sarkozy is a monument to monumental mendacious mediocrity. The tragedy for France is that apart from the NF, there is absolutely zero difference between the " dominant" parties in the political hustings. That is the tragedy; two faces of the same devalued and corrupted coin.

At January 22, 2012 10:07 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

turkey invaded cyprus.

the war against the serbs was led by a turk general...

At February 01, 2012 3:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"So discussing the Armenian genocide is now islamophobia?"

Actually, denying the Armenian genocide is now illegal in France. Maybe that is what was meant by the "current situation". The fear is that in discussing the genocide, someone may choose to deny it.


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