Thursday, February 23, 2012

Halal on the Table

As a follow-up to my previous post, this article by Roger Heurtebise of Riposte Laïque, describes what happened after Marine Le Pen announced legal proceedings against distributors of halal meat.

Last Thursday a report on France 2 revealed to the public what Riposte Laïque and many others (Brigitte Bardot Foundation, Bloc Identitaire, etc…) have been saying for months and even years: the French people are consuming halal meat without knowing it, whether purchased from their local butcher or from the supermarket.

The political reactions to this report? None.

But the following weekend, Marine Le Pen repeated these findings during the campaign meeting of the Front National in Lille.

And suddenly there was a general uproar from the Front de Gauche to the UMP, from the ministers to the media! The truth had become, in their eyes, political manipulation and "Islamophobie."

Thus, after the Lille meeting, the television program Mots Croisés (Crosswords) on France 2, Monday February 20, held a round-table discussion. Yves Calvi had as his guests:

- Bruno Le Maire, Minister of Agriculture
- Julien Dray, Socialist deputy
- Clémentine Autain, spokesman for the Front de Gauche (a left-wing coalition including the Communist Party)
- Jean-Luc Bennahmias, European deputy, and vice-chairman of the Modem (a centrist party)
- Florian Philippot, campaign strategist for Marine Le Pen
- Guillaume Roquette, editor of Valeurs Actuelles (a moderate conservative journal)

Note: The following is greatly condensed:

On the topic of halal meat the four politicians joined forces as one man against Florian Philippot. They made no attempt to find the truth. Instead they continuously harassed him.

Their witch hunt was reduced to two overused methods of misinformation: it's not true, and even if it is true, you are only saying it to stigmatize Muslims.

After denials, the Minister of Agriculture finally admitted there had been "abuses" and "wrong turns", and that beginning in July 2012, by government decree, ritual slaughter will be done only in response to orders that are strictly halal or kosher.

Florian Philippot reviewed the facts about halal slaughter: the UMP opposition to the EU's directive to label all meat, the suffering of the animals, the contamination of the meat, the promises made by Nicolas Sarkozy to Brigitte Bardot - promises broken.

In the opinion of Bruno Le Maire, Marine Le Pen brought up this topic during her campaign to stigmatize and create a scapegoat. He found the debate "ignoble" and divisive.

Clémentine Autain wondered what the debate could be about if not to "stigmatize Arabs and Muslims" which is "intolerable racism."

Julien Dray explained that he did his homework and asked the butcher in his supermarket if the meat was halal. The butcher said no. Dray concluded that there was no problem. Dray also went after Florian Philippot saying: "You place halal meat at the center of this debate because you are losing politically." He accused Philippot of not respecting Muslims. He also dared to imply it was a Front National strategy: "There is the question of a virus, and of an illness" only to make people afraid of their "fellow citizens who have been stigmatized."

Note: The "virus" here may refer to the E coli bacteria that some veterinarians believe is present in halal meat.

Jean-Luc Bennahmias agreed in substance (sic!), but turned the conversation to other themes related to agriculture.

Guillaume Roquette dared to go against the politically correct current: "This is not a trivial debate, halal is a social practice, there is concern, and not only from the Front National, about ethnic communitarianism."

Julian Dray tried one more time to silence the heretics: "French society has evolved, there is a new France, and in this new France, there are millions of citizens who have the right to eat halal meat."

But no one questions this. The debate was not about the right of Muslims to eat halal, but the right of non-Muslims not to eat halal!

This is what we have come to in France: defending the right of French people not to eat halal is not good, and the victims are not the non-Muslims who are racists for demanding their rights, but the Muslims who are once again "stigmatized."

These people are topsy-turvy, and to think they want us to vote for them… Can you imagine what would happen if a Dray or an Autain had one ounce of power: the non-Muslims would be forced to comply with sharia, to hug the walls, and to shut their mouths, or risk assassination by the media, if not a trial for racism.

Note: Julian Dray's remarks about a "new France" are the most telling. He does not disguise the fact that France today, by design, is not traditional France. And he implies that you better get used to it because it's here to stay.

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At February 23, 2012 10:54 AM, Blogger zazie said...

You know what, Tiberge? I admire you...I have long ceased watching political TV shows...The so called journalists usually show no respect, no fair play, no intellectual honesty, no intention to listen to the interviewed people. Such shows only make my stomach very acid, and so, painful!
Perhaps off topic : DSK seems to have very recently discovered that all journalists are rotten ; I wonder what Anne Sinclair is saying about the business in Lille??LOL!

At February 23, 2012 10:58 AM, Blogger zazie said...

Something else about DSK and "all the journalists" : "Il est venu parmi les siens, et les siens ne l'ont pas reconnu" (Voltaire about an ass that had entered a hall full of academics....)

At February 23, 2012 2:41 PM, Blogger tiberge said...

@ zazie,

Thank you. I can see where a daily barrage of TV shows like this one would take its toll - people become drugged, they can no longer think straight. The whole progress of a country is held back by the media.

Shouldn't Dray be in jail for fraud?

Just a note off-topic: I made several corrections in the post - punctuation, etc... Nothing major.

At February 23, 2012 2:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Des paroles et des actes
Thursday night show
Special guest: Marine Le Pen

At February 23, 2012 2:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


"Il est venu parmi les siens, et les siens ne l'ont pas reconnu"

If I may, for those who don't speak French fluently.

"He came unto his own, and his own received him not. ... from the King James Bible Online (KJV Bible)."

At February 23, 2012 3:02 PM, Anonymous Jewel said...

Uggh, I'm with you Zazie. I can't stomach any of it, anymore. When the President opens his mouth to speak, I know only lies will issue forth, and I just zap the channel or else I mute the most powerful man in the world. Such is the power of the will, I guess. The press is the same the world over. If you don't have the same world view they largely written in the fictions they create out of that magical cloth "wishful thinking", then you are a savage and a barbarian. Evil. I used to work for them, and I saw this many years ago with their ludicrous lists of politically incorrect terminologies. I don't know what the chink in their armor is, but the fact that so many people loathe them is probably a good chunk of chink. Heh.

At February 23, 2012 3:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Shouldn't Dray be in jail for fraud? "

tiberge, an occasion to mention the SOS Rasisme fraud
in Norway

Yesterday, one of them admitted they burnt the accounts and withdrew money from all available bank accounts, when they knew they had been reported to the police.

At February 23, 2012 4:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

zazie and jewel

I'm with you, too. What they are presenting to the audience, are sketches and plays, which you can imagine once you know the which actors are on stage on which channel.

Again, and again, you think that it might be interesting to watch, until you remember that there will be noting new, only actors speaking at the same time, so it's impossible to hear a word of it.

So, again, and again, you switch.

It is much more intellectually stimulating to read and discuss with you all, thanks to tiberge!

At February 24, 2012 4:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"New France", Dray, SOS racism

Same terminology as in for instance, Norway, "New Norway", Støre - and T Ramadan.

"Here to stay", Ramadan.

At February 25, 2012 6:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

France Info - A permanent scandal

Paid for by the French citizens, the state radio "of information" is actually a weapon of war against everything which is natural, French, Christian, familiar, traditional..

In short, sums up what we have been discussing above.

"Payée par les citoyens français, la radio « d’information » étatique est en réalité une arme de guerre contre tout ce qui est naturel, français, chrétien, familial, traditionnel…"

At February 25, 2012 6:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting about

Hollande's presidential program

A short glance is enough to see what it is about.

At February 25, 2012 2:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No traditional meat available for consumers in Paris

Paul Amar (live Saturday night France5) pretends to shed light on the problem

A Langlois gets to repeat several times that he thinks the halal question is about "stigmatising a cult"

The representative for the abattoirs doesn't really get to explain anything.

Discussion over.

The consumer still doesn't know how to find any traditional meat in France, as those who know the facts are not telling the public what is what.

Another question: Why do even the French pretend to want sharia meat, as they don't ask any questions?

France is known the world over for its cuisine and centuries old trations.

What happened overnight?

Who decided that the French cuisine and French traditions no longer are important in France?

At February 26, 2012 6:57 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The halal/sharia propaganda continues on all channels

Christian Jacob on Sunday, gives the same "lesson" as all the others who are allowed to speak about the sharia slaughter. All they say is "Marine Le Pen is wrong..tons slaughtered in Ile de France (Paris area).. stigmatising... demand..."

Again, no clue to the consumer about any information whether or not the meat is sharia-compliant.

Since no information is given that contradicts the information that 100% of the meat is sharia-meat, you can conclude that it is sharia-compliant.

- How else would the muslims know how to avoid the traditional meat, which obviously is considered crucial compared to animal welfare and the conviction of the French who don't want meat from animals that were turned to Mecca at the moment of the slaughter?

In other words, the French consumer has no choice other than not to buy meat, since no information is given.

At February 26, 2012 11:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever happened to the adage " When in Rome...." When in France do as French do. But no, when in France do as Mohameden do. It simply illustrates a simple truism that France is chnging ownership. How will the Frech allow this ? Why have the French allow this incongruous situation to befell them ? The Germans occupied France in the WW2. They did not Germanize France. The Islamists are not only occupying France but also implanting their footprints. Which bring us to the theme of " The occupation was not inhumane" and Jean Marie gets hauled over the coals for simply speaking the truth. No one is being hauled over the coals for saying that France is becoming an islamized fortress. And the French are seemingly silent over their funereal cortege.


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