Wednesday, April 18, 2012

Readers' Comments on the Election

Here are some recent comments (somewhat abridged and edited) about the election from my readers. As the big day approaches the polls are saying that Sarkozy and Hollande are in a tight race in the first round. But anything is possible and I am remaining as realistic as possible:

- You guys are worried for nothing. Sarkozy will win this election. Immigrant turn out will be as low as always. Homosexuals support Sarkozy.

This following reader responded to the possibility of Marine losing the first round and being courted by the candidates of the second round:

- What I say is she will be courted by both rascals, Hollande-Sarkozy in order to tilt the balance either way. That is if she garners sufficient number of votes. Has she a chance of winning outright, by way of a miracle yes, if not she may still have the rod to tilt the election one way or another; again that is if she can become a critical factor to the the outcome of the second round. This is what I meant, I may be entirely wrong in my assessment, but I still keep faith with it. The other real alternative is that both Hollande-Sarkozy factions, visualizing the genuine threat of Marine, end up ganging up on her by backing each other up, depending as to who leads the polls after the first round. I still, regretfully, surmise that through this electorally rigged charade the system, the two party system - the backbone of our kleptocratic sham democracy-republic, can only perpetuate itself.

I responded to the above comment:

It's more likely that Sarkozy and Hollande will gang up on Marine. It is not likely that Marine will voluntarily tilt the election towards anyone other than herself. She could not possibly help either Sarkozy or Hollande without losing all the credibility she has gained.

As for the immigrants - we cannot be sure. They won the election for Jacques Chirac in 2002, they could easily do it again in 2012.

Now, if Marine loses the first round, she has said that she will not issue any instruction to her voters. How can she tell them to vote for Sarko or Hollande? It's a moral impossibility (as of now). Regarding her future political decisions, we just don't know. We don't know if she is a patriot first or a politician first. Rather than comparing her to Joan of Arc, I would prefer to compare her to Bonparte. She is 100% republican with some appreciation of the monarchy. She may not be very religious but she is religious enough to realize, as did Bonaparte (and Napoleon), that the Church must be allowed to survive. She is a soldier. Not like Bonaparte, of course, but I'll bet she would go into battle if she had to to defend the Republic against a coalition of Europeists.

I don't want her to meet her Waterloo. But it is inevitable that she will.

The following reader introduced the notion that big money will call the election:

- All the big money is betting on Sarkozy. The business community is a far more reliable barometer of electoral results than people give it credit. After Merah, French society has been split in two. A radical pro-Merah extreme, and the majority, now with either Sarkozy or Le Pen. The media are having a ball because the only ones willing to openly boast of their political choices are on the left, and many in the small radical fringe. The election results will be ABSOLUTELY different from the polls. This be a big blow to polling as such (media has short term memory), but you'll note that I was someone who pointed it out early. Le Pen is perfectly capable of winning the first round, in a stunning defeat. The second round will be Le Pen and Sarkozy. The media will be astonished. This isn't fantasy. People refuse polls. The vast majority of French have had it, they will vent their anger in a few days.

I responded:

- It's interesting that big money is betting on Sarkozy.

But, what is "big money" in this case? I believe it must be the European financial policies, plus the Arab financial investments in France. It is not just American business, as it has been so often in the past (although today American big business is largely left-oriented and pro-euro). Sarko is the euro, Marine is sovereignty. She would restore a national currency and curtail Arab investments. She would be a protectionist and help smaller businesses and farmers. She has never said she would oppose big businesses, but she probably would try to make them adhere to a "national preference" policy in their hiring.

As for her winning the second round and becoming president, I'll believe it when I see it. Sarko's voters would have to turn on him.

Anonymous says we're worrying about nothing. Well, if Sarko wins, we'll have plenty to worry about.


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4 Comments:

At April 19, 2012 4:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

when I say "big money" I mean only financial in 3 financial capitals. Not individual capitalists like Soros, or Saudi money or Chinese. Big money tends towards liberal values, but it seeks stability and sound fiscal policy. You might be right about there being little sympathy for Marine Le Pen. These people don't have time to worry about who comes in second or third in this race. It's winner take all, and no matter who makes it to the second round, they are betting on Sarkozy's reelection. Big money is interested in returns on bonds and French-bassed assets ROI. Politics aside, Le doesn't inspire anymore confidence in the markets than Melanchon or Holland.

I personally have an issue with the way polls are conducted. We can all recall the Chirac-Le Pen upset which they failed to predict. The pollsters talk of absentees and non-decided voters, but that's just another way of saying that the current media hype is based on polls are not those of voters, but merely of some limited segment of the population which is very vocal about its views. Will they all vote? Not by a mile. Bottom line, polls are not voters and do not represent votes. (but be careful, not all polling is the same, some "polls" are merely models).


A more accurate predictor of turn out might be the party size and organisation, UMP vs. Socialist party size. By this measure we would expect teh following results: Sarkozy 25%, Holland 23%, with nothing certain for the remainder of candidates except a solid 5 percent per someone like Joly and Bayreau just based on organisation size.

Le Pen is hard to calculate. Her party is very loyal, and so are her voters. She will easily have 15%. Sarkozy failed to take much from her.

My guesstimate is that Le Pen Sarkozy will have a minimum of 55 to 60% combined. This is OPPOSITE of what the "polls" are saying. Call it the "Merah effect"

 
At April 19, 2012 11:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

PS.
The most solid argument against Le Pen is that she lacks the charisma of her father. Taken into account, this might lead to a poor performance for the FN.

 
At April 19, 2012 3:03 PM, Blogger tiberge said...

I believe she has more charisma than her father. He was a powerful speaker, who often, despite his great oratory, was vague on even non-committal on major issues like Islam. He was against immigration, but he had fondness for Islam. He used his charisma to hypnotize the crowds, which he did very well, but with Marine there is much more specificity in her speeches and interviews. She nails it on most issues except possibly economics, where I don't quite understand her views. She needs better instruction on this matter.

Her appearance is great especially when she doesn't try too hard to look like a "businesswoman" in high heels and short skirt. Her eyes are intense when she defends her ideas. Her father's eyes had coldness (of course he had lost one eye, so possibly I'm being unfair).

If they don't vote for her it will be because they chicken out.

 
At April 19, 2012 3:23 PM, Blogger tiberge said...

Note:

In the above comment, first sentence, it should read "or" non-commital...

 

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