Sunday, June 24, 2012

"The Front National's Tactical Winning Streak"


A reader recommended this article about the French elections, both presidential and legislative. I found it well written, informative and, as far as I can tell, accurate (my French readers may disagree). It is of course a summary, the reality of any political situation in times of severe crisis being overwhelmingly complex and impossible to encapsulate. The author, Patrick Le Brun, therefore, is to be praised for the simplicity of his style, the clarity of his thinking, and his presentation of the events in proper and intelligible sequence. Since I have, more or less, been writing about these events for a long time (translating, I should say) it was with pleasure that I reviewed the whole story as seen through the refreshingly well-trained eye of someone who obviously knows French politics. I could never have done so well. The comments are interesting too, especially the ones by a traditional Catholic who has no fondness for Marine Le Pen or the Front National. Most commenters advocate a cautious approach to Marine Le Pen's accomplishments.

Below, Marine and Marion.



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7 Comments:

At June 24, 2012 12:46 PM, Blogger crusader said...

I'm glad you enjoyed it, but I wouldn't be so modest!

 
At June 24, 2012 1:16 PM, Anonymous thomas said...

Marion Le Pen : http://www.meilleur-top.com/meilleur-top-3-photos-de-marion-le-pen-avec-jean-marie-le-pen-et-marine-le-pen.htm

 
At June 24, 2012 3:36 PM, Anonymous dauphin said...

@ tiberge

Some of the events are correct, but his analysis seems tainted by some of the Jew-obsession of a Vichyst or Neo-Nazi, referring to Sarko as the grandson of a Jew (I guess he means 1/4 Jew), also like Copé which he refers to; this just seems silly. Do you see the books they carry? A collection of poems of devotion to Hitler, etc.??

 
At June 24, 2012 4:29 PM, Anonymous Tellier said...

I'm a Traditional Catholic as well and I dislike Marine. She is shamefully negotiating as a merchant (or, worst, as a banker) the Front National values and principles, just to be a part of the particrat maffia which is disolving France.
All of the contemporary European nationalism (the bad-called Extreme Right movements) could be read from it's position to non-Christian world views (mainly Jewish's and Muslim's world views):
- the Identitarians are against Muslim presence in Europe, but they don't say anything about Zionist movements.
- the Third Worldish (guys like Soral) are against Zionist presence in Europe, but they supports Muslim integration.
- the Traditional Nationalist are against both Muslims and Zionists. That's have always been Front National position, until Marine came and make our movement an Identitarian party, like the Lega Nord or the True Finns or the UKIP.
I'm not an anti-semite nut, because I don't want to get every Jew to be killed (neither the Nazis wanted that, and that's why the Holocaust never happened). I just want the elites who are running the Modern World to be stopped, and in that category falls the Zionists, the Freemasons, and other synarchist groups of power.

 
At June 25, 2012 4:36 AM, Blogger tiberge said...

@ dauphin,

Correct. The website itself has some highly questionable things along the right margin. There are also some articles of interest - I got started on a discussion of Aristotle that I couldn't finish due to lack of time, but will return to it.

So many right-wing websites have this flaw. They mix high culture, interesting book reviews, opinions, etc... with some very low-class scum-bag Hitler worship or at least Hitler justification. The problem never goes away. Obviously I am not recommending anyone read anything at any website that they find offensive.

It is very difficult to talk about white nationalism without being called a white supremacist, just as it is difficult to talk about any group critically, without being called something.

François Desouche has had to deal with outrage over his comment section which often includes mindless, anti-Jewish remarks and cracks about "zionists". It seems to go with the territory.

Regarding the article, his references to Sarkozy's and Copé's heritage were uncalled-for because he is attributing the incompetence of both men to their Jewishness. Sarkozy is one quarter Jewish and raised as a Catholic. Copé, as a French Freemason has renounced any religious belief he may have had. So both men are certainly worthy of criticism, but not because of their Jewish ancestry.

As for Vichy, he says many Catholics were unhappy because they were treated worse than the Communists. But maybe this is because there were a lot of gauchistes in the Vichy government? That is what I heard someplace. It flies in the face of our impressions of Vichy as being very right-wing.

 
At June 25, 2012 5:20 AM, Blogger tiberge said...

@ Tellier,

If you dislike Marine Le Pen, that is your prerogative. You have your reasons. But you are not being very realistic if you feel the FN is better off in the shadows. It is too important a party. It is not just a small "mouvance" or a splinter group.
The issues she deals with are critical, they involve the fate of your country, they have to be discussed on radio and television, people have to be made aware of the dangers. And Marion's victory in Carpentras has helped vindicate her grandfather. You should be happy about that.

Your view of the FN is very limiting. You seem to regard it as a private thing that nobody should touch, like a private club. Marine had to purge the party of those elements that were obstacles to the success and influence of the party. If you want a private club you will have to form a neo-Nazi holocaust-denying group that will never win an election. But according to Patrick Le Brun's article, Jean-Marie Le Pen never really wanted to win. His offensive remarks were timed to coincide with elections so that he would lose. I have heard that from many different sources, and I was glad to see Le Brun confirmed it again. What kind of party would that have been?

As for "Zionism", Israel exists and is fighting for its life, as it has been since its birth. It is fighting the enemy that has vowed to destroy it. France and the rest of the Western world have yet to start fighting the same enemy. They blame Israel for defending itself, but this is exactly what they have to do too. I believe many Frenchmen are victims of anti-Israel propaganda that has completely warped their vision of right and wrong and their ability to recognize what is in the best interests of France. For France to be antisemitic is a recipe for disaster. The French have to rid their country primarily of the Muslims who number in the millions, not the Jews who have been there since antiquity, who have made worthy contributions to society, and whose numbers are very low (last estimate was under 600,000).

I do not see how Marine has turned the FN into an identitarian party, nor do I see why that would be such a bad thing.

The holocaust happened, whether you believe it or not.

 
At June 25, 2012 1:34 PM, Anonymous dauphin said...

@ tiberge

Ah, glad you are aware, and you have a very good analysis of the situation; thanks for not mincing your words (didn't think you would).

I think in France, I agree that many of these people would be better off joining Dieudonné's "Anti-Zionist" party. Marine has done what she can I think, but you can see the difficulty this creates for her.

It may be that the FN is not completely salvageable due to the continued presence of these elements, and because of this perception by the general electorate which can be capitolized upon by the UMPS, it may be that there will long be an electoral ceiling for Marine and FN candidates. This is what is so frustrating. I hope the FN and other patriotic candidates can at least draw allies from the Droite Populaire wing of the UMP.

By the way, Marine has been clear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m68UdqD1tGo

 

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