This interview with Cecilia Malmström, European Commissioner for Interior Affairs, appeared in Le Monde on July 7, 2012. Blind ambition? Repressed destructiveness? Treason? Pure European indoctrination? Possibly all four, plus resolute refusal to acknowledge what she must, somewhere in the dark recesses of her shallow, yet devious brain, realize: immigration means the death of Europe. The subconscious mind knows everything, but is protected by what psychoanalysts call "resistance". Not Marine Le Pen's resistance, the other kind.
- The debate on the Schengen Space was triggered by the "Arab Spring". You feel that Europe missed an "historic opportunity." Why?
- In our immediate vicinity, various peoples felled dictators and demanded human rights. This was a major event. So what did we say to these people who were inspired by our values? That we were in a crisis and that we were afraid of "biblical waves" of immigrants… Note that only 4% of those who fled Libya came to Europe! Our attitude brought about a deterioration of our relations with these counties and created a suspicion that is only just beginning to be surmounted.
Note: Her words leave one speechless. And so I will remain.
- Recently you declared that immigration for Europe was "not a threat, but an opportunity" and even "a factor of growth". Words that surprised some…
- Of course, and I stand by them. Immigration will be necessary, given the demographic evolution of most of our countries. They estimate that by 2030, without new immigration, the European working population will have diminished by 12%. Managers regularly confide to me the difficulty they are having recruiting qualified people even though unemployment is at an all time high. Germany needs engineers; by 2020 the European health sector will need two million workers.
A report from the OCDE (Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development) shows that many persons who might emigrate are less tempted by Europe than by Brazil, Canada or Australia, or even Angola or Mozambique. Long term this could be a source of major difficulties for us. The same OCDE shows that migratory pressures on Europe are subsiding. But of course, this could be a temporary effect of the crisis that we are experiencing.
- Education about this "new immigration" is necessary but, from all appearances, it's a difficult position to uphold…
- Yes, but the reality is there. The role of the Brussels Commission is also to encourage politicians to take this into account. To envisage long term problems and to rise above national contingencies. Anyway, the academics take what I'm saying for granted…
- The rise of populist and xenophobic forces, including those in Northern Europe where you originated, are preventing your message from being heard. What to do?
- It is true that Geert Wilders, for example, has now made me into the principal enemy of The Netherlands… More fundamentally, I plead for a veritable sharing of responsibility among Europeans in matters of immigration and asylum. I say that integration has been, in most big cities, a failure and that ghettoization is a reality for which the politicians are responsible because they did not act vigorously enough. I also demand a better use of the existing labor force.
So, it is not about opening wide the doors, but examining how to better facilitate a new legal immigration - which is, after all, a way of fighting against illegal immigration.
- At the other end of the political spectrum you are suspected of organizing a brain drain and of depriving some countries of their best elements…
This is a primordial question. However note that in Tunisia many nurses are out of work: why refuse them if they come, for a limited time, to France or elsewhere? India and China have a surplus of engineers who could be very useful to their country, once they received complementary training in Europe. It is not a brain drain but a brain gain that has to be organized.
- How do you convince both leaders and the man in the street, who often sense confusedly that immigration is a threat?
I have the feeling, and studies confirm this, that the citizen is often more open than some politicians. He demands more information and he has the feeling that reality is being manipulated The same studies confirm that immigration is often a more important theme for politicians than for voters. During my meetings with the ministers, they sometimes admit that they agree with me but cannot say it openly… The images of boatloads of people arriving in Lampedusa are apparently stronger than the objective data.
- You are counting heavily on a change in government in France. During his first European Council, in Luxembourg, in June, Manuel Valls (French Interior Minister), for the most part defended the positions taken by (his predecessor) Claude Guéant on the need to reestablish border controls. Are you disappointed?
- The central issue is to determine accurately what "extraordinary" situations could motivate a return to border controls. Everybody knows I don't agree with the latest compromise and that I still insist on a supervision by the Commission of national situations - in collaboration with the member countries of course - so that the study can be really independent and transparent. The decision of the Council is not formalized, the Parliament has not voted. So the possibility remains of reviving the debate in September.
- What do you think of Manuel Valls' position?
- His situation is very difficult, with a European Council just days after he took office as Interior Minister. I'm delighted to have met him.
- Do you hope to change his mind?
- We shall see.
- With what arguments?
- We shall see.
H/T: Islamisation, where Joachim Véliocas points out that Cecilia Malmström has no democratic legitimacy.
You will see that she is very well-educated and a multi-lingual multi-culturalist. Since her education precludes the idea that she might be stupid, we have to acknowledge that she is very bright and uses her intelligence to dismantle a world she did not have the good fortune to build and fight for. She cannot be acting unconsciously, despite my comment at the beginning. She is fully conscious, fully aware. Her words are shocking because they are the exact opposite of the truth. There is no in-between area where she might feel the stirrings of self-doubt, impelling her to look without blinders at the reality she claims she knows better than the politicians. She was born in May 1968. That is all we need to know.
Labels: EU, Eurabia, Immigration, Manuel Valls